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Ellen Page is gay

Well, that's interesting.

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Actress Ellen Page publicly came out as gay Friday evening, while giving a speech at Time to THRIVE, a national LGBTQ youth conference held in Las Vegas.

"I'm here today because I am gay," Page told the assembled crowd, which responded with a standing ovation and a long chorus of cheers.

"Whoo!" said Page, before continuing:

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"And because maybe I can make a difference. To help others have an easier and more hopeful time. Regardless, for me, I feel a personal obligation and a social responsibility.

I also do it selfishly because I'm tired of hiding and I'm tired of lying by omission. I suffered for years because I was scared to be out. My spirit suffered, my mental health suffered, and my relationships suffered. And I'm standing here today with all of you on the other side of that pain."
Page is most famous for becoming pregnant by her awkward classmate Michael Cera, and for invading the dreams of a stranger alongside Leonardo DiCaprio, neither of which happened in real life, because she is an actress.

After her speech, the Human Rights Campaign, which organized the conference, congratulated Page on the front page of its website for "her brave decision to live openly and authentically."

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Old 02-19-2014, 09:38 AM   #751
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That's the whole point, it's sexual preference. I don't know why they don't just say it. It's always got to be the whole coming out thing like they were created that way.
I can only speak for myself, but I never made an active decision about my sexuality.

Perhaps you or others hit 12 years old and had to sit down and weigh the pro's and con's, but for me and most people attraction is more of a base instinct than a well calculated decision.

Actions are decisions, but feelings are not.
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they saw a naked woman and realized that dudes are ugly?
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:39 AM   #753
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I can only speak for myself, but I never made an active decision about my sexuality.

Perhaps you or others hit 12 years old and had to sit down and weigh the pro's and con's, but for me and most people attraction is more of a base instinct than a well calculated decision.

Actions are decisions, but feelings are not.
Attraction is not a choice. IMO most women are attracted to other women as well as men. The very fact that she was in relationships with men before she decided to jump the beaver and make a relationship of it proves that out. Being with a woman is her preference at this time. Almost all people coming out gay have been in relationships with the opposite sex. I was just making fun of the whole gay gene thing. Obviously Ellen is not gay and does not have that gene. I have no idea where you got the whole 12 year old weigh things out delio based upon what I wrote.
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Disney's Frozen advocates gay agenda.

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The gay agenda to normalize homosexuality is woven into Disney's movie Frozen not just as an underlying message - it is the movie. In a liberal culture tenacious at normalizing immorality, stripping those of faith from their ability to speak out in opposition, this needs to be taken seriously. It's one thing that we've all donated to the cause by making Frozen a record-breaking hit at the box office (myself included), but that's as far it's going, for me, personally.

I wrote the main body of this post nearly three months ago, after I watched Frozen, with most of my grandchildren. Since then, I've had a few discussions with friends and family about the movie, prior to deciding to publish it, with little support for my findings. That, and watching Frozen receive more and more accolades, including many from trusted resources, and observing the ongoing rise in the movie's popularity, without significant challenge.




And finally, this, from the LDS community, the last straw, watched over 10 million times since it was posted on YouTube, February 13th.


Video: Alex Boyé - Frozen - Let it Go






If you are seriously clueless as to what I'm talking about then it is imperative, particularly for morally minded parents, that you read this post and open your eyes to the homosexual agenda, and the principles advanced to promote it, that undergird Frozen, which is why it was written for Broadway and will indubitably be a hit - mark my words!

Have you seen the video with four-year-old twins singing "Let It Go"- near perfect? With the help of media outlets, such as The Huffington Post (not clueless) and KSL.com (hopefully clueless), mainstream media is helping to advocate Frozen's message by jumping on the popularity bandwagon. While most watching this video, likely found it adorable, I shed tears.



Video: An Innocent Child Sings "Let it Go"





In the making of Disney's movie, Frozen, it is apparent that the very best talent, within the industry, was called upon for every facet of producing and bringing it to the big screen: illustrators; animators; writers; composers; singing artist; actors; etc., in order to woo its intended audience, parents, into a frozen-state, which would then allow liberalism to indoctrinate children.

The fact is, that not one of us would allow a person, contrary to our values, to come into our homes and teach our family many of the principles advocated in the movie Frozen - such as rebellion/disobedience - as good. Yet, when the same element cunningly creates a medium within to share the same doctrine, which intensely overwhelms the senses, we are blinded - and rather than put on glasses, we allow ourselves to be mesmerized by the overall experience - focusing only on the good that we see, or perceive, highlighted for our viewing pleasure.

However, as light and dark, or fear and faith cannot exist in the same space, good and evil do, here in mortality. Therefore, we must be wise - especially parents. When good is used to advance evil, we must reject it and state why, if we desire to be light.

When mainstream society comes to the point where it celebrates that which is contrary to the commandments, taught in a movie presumably made for children, by awarding it the highest accolades within its culture, and good parents don't perceive it, but rather endorse it unwittingly, we are in serious trouble. And you can bet that those we have to thank are laughing themselves all the way to the bank, while mocking the religious ignorant.

Entertainment, with all of its mediums, has more power than just about anything else to effectively indoctrinate and influence society, negatively, and among the most vulnerable of its victims are children.

To Christian parents, who don't support the legalization of SSM, or the normalization of same-sex sexual behavior, oppositional to God, I feel strongly that we must become more aware of how liberal media advocate these messages. It is often accomplished through infiltrating mainstream channels with the specific attitudes and ideologies necessary to advance these practices, as progressive, within mainstream society.

If good parents fail to accept that progressivism is strongly behind the entertainment industry, then we risk being, unknowingly, undermined as parents. Coupled with the power of media, and social media, to advance much of what is contrary to Christian values, by brilliantly marketing their message, as popular, inviting our aid as Christians, we also fail society.

If you feel you've been duped by the surface story of the movie Frozen, try not to feel too bad. The way in which Frozen wraps up the false doctrine perpetuated throughout the film, is as skillfully done as I have ever seen it, which makes calling it out and not being labeled crazy difficult. Nevertheless, after months of vacillating over whether I wanted to share my thoughts, broadly, with a bit of encouragement from only one friend, I've finally decided to just do it, regardless of the high approval ratings for the movie, which most are insistent to retain.


Are we okay with memorializing through accolades something that advocates what is clearly oppositional to God, because it is perfectly packaged?

Ironically, I've seen Frozen three times. Not because I necessarily wanted to, but because I had three sets of grandchildren who I committed to take to see the movie when it initially came out. And as it worked out it was at different times and places. I won't deny, either, that I enjoyed watching the movie every single time, for a number of reasons. It actually gave me a good opportunity to confirm my initial reaction, and in so doing, I could blatantly see that the homosexual agenda, to normalize the practice, was not simply an underlying message in the movie Frozen, but is the actual story.

The process of normalizing homosexual behavior in society is going to require more than the liberal media saying it is so - which they do all the time - or activist judges legalizing same-sex marriage in one state after another. It's going to require the indoctrination of our children, in order to lead their generation to the next, necessary, level of mainstream social acceptance.

Remember, that in today's liberal society allowing almost anything, even legalizing it, in the name of "love" trumps sin - it's that powerful of an ideology. And that my friends, is exactly what Disney is selling your children, while you unknowingly standby and watch.

I know what some think, because I questioned myself, initially, and I've heard it multiple times when even lightly expressing my feelings about the movie, with others. You think that I've read way too much into it, because I'm sensitive to homosexual issues, or perhaps a bit paranoid. I get that, seeing as I've written about homosexuality, same-sex marriage and preserving traditional marriage, frequently, here on WBMW.

But stay with me... If you've seen the movie, you should be able to recognize what I'm talking about and hopefully begin to make the connection, and perhaps see others I don't go into here.

It was during the first time I watched Frozen that the plot/subplot burst out at me and right through what most everyone else was mesmerized by (music, animation, etc.), and actually stunned me, causing me to question the impression, and try to move past it. But, what I clearly came to realize, was that I was watching a completely different movie than what was visually dancing across the screen in all of its made-for-the-stage splendor. It was surreal. I knew this, immediately. It was like being in two places, experiencing two vastly different movies, that were visually identical. When I left the theater that evening, I was quiet with my response, knowing that if I shared my experience it would immediately be minimized.

I felt confident in that moment, as I still do, and you can mark my words: when Frozen goes to Broadway it will break records and be among the biggest hits of all time!

I have no problem with those who find the homosexual messaging good, or important for society, from their perspective. However, I'm not okay that too many parents, who would not normally support the normalization of homosexual behavior, seem to be completely blind to its advocacy throughout a children's movie, and are in fact gushing over Frozen. I just don't believe that with full disclosure they would feel to continue. And yet, I also acknowledge the beauty, used in every facet of the movie, which has captivated, or rather frozen audiences, everywhere.

Sidebar: Let me be very clear about one thing, I am not anti-gay nor am I here to judge homosexuals not worthy of their rightful and respectful place among society. However, I draw the line at the idea of redefining traditional marriage to include homosexual relationships, as equal. Meaning, that as a Christian, I believe that acting on same-sex attraction is contrary to God's will, and therefore SSM should not be legalized. Because I hold this value and voice it freely, does not mean that I am trying to force it on anyone - anymore than those who feel opposite and advocate for their position intend to force SSM on me, personally - both have the right [to freely advocate an oppositional position] and should not be demonized, regardless of where society takes us, as a whole.

With that said, here is a brief summary of only 'some' of the gay messaging found in the movie Frozen, intended to advocate the homosexual agenda to legalize same-sex marriage and normalize the practice:



Elsa has a great power that she has been taught by her parents from the time she was a child, is not publicly acceptable and that she must fear its expression, at all cost, thus hide it from people, even her own sister who could be hurt by it - even killed. Shame is at the core of Elsa's feelings about her magical powers: same-sex attraction.

As Elsa’s power increases, her parents’ urge her to learn how to control it, as it would be perceived as evil to others, but Elsa can't; it's impossible. Her parents' make the decision to close the castle to the public, and lock Elsa in her room so that her power won’t be discovered. Not even her sister is allowed to see and play with Elsa: demonetization of homosexuals by society.

Elsa is devastatingly lonely and depressed being forced to live a life of isolation, believing her powers to be evil. Her sister, kept from the truth, and affected by the inflicted secrecy also becomes victim to the dysfunction of her family and experiences equal isolation and confusion: not "coming out" and being who you are meant to be (acting on the power) is harmful to the person, family and society.

The parents are killed in an accident while traveling abroad (expendable and best out of the way for progression - represent authority), which means that Elsa must take her rightful position among her people, as queen. (Right to be queen: make what you want out of this one.) To do so, she faces great fear in going out publicly for her coronation, worrying that her powers might show because she has no control over them: rejects the ability of those with same-gender attraction to control behavior.

While at the same time her sister, Anna, is beyond thrilled at the opportunity to go outside, make friends and perhaps even meet her special someone and have her happily-ever-after: heterosexuals are free to pursue happiness through sexual relationships and gays are not - making them unequal in society.

The gates are opened - Elsa is terrified that people will see through her and that her power will show itself, regardless of what she has done to hide it. (Stay in the closet.) Anna, on the other hand, burst through the gate and experiences joy in being out in the open and meets someone whom she immediately falls in love with: heterosexuals are free to pursue happiness, without restriction. Insinuating that heterosexuals don't value marriage in the way those who work at preserving traditional marriage say that they do. No-fault divorce, as one example, is seen as evidence of this lack of care.

After only a brief interaction, Anna and Hans decide to marry. Elsa is freaked out that her sister wants to marry someone she only just met: heterosexuals diminish marriage, freely given to them without judgment of any kind - SSM can't do any more harm.

In her anger at her sister's irresponsible behavior, Elsa orders the gates shut, again, and her sister's new fiancé to leave and not return. Anna, is totally confused and begins to oppose Elsa, who becomes even angrier and sees that she is loosing control of her power. Feeling the need to run and hide, Anna, while trying to discuss the matter with her sister, becomes the cause of Elsa's power being exposed, in front of everyone. In shame, she runs away to hide.






Now, this is a significant turn-around-message, because the gay movement consider themselves victims, enslaved by the judgments of religious pro-heterosexual marriage advocates who keep them from what they want and which they believe demonize the gay lifestyle. So, in essence, they consider themselves "frozen,” not able to live their lives out-loud, and freely, however they choose in mainstream society - no moral absolutes.

As expected, the town's people fear Elsa's misunderstood power, and her, and some begin to call her dangerous/evil and want to do away with her. Sister disagrees she is dangerous and sets off to find Elsa, who has gone up into the mountains leaving behind utter destruction in the town, which she's not aware that her power, hidden, has caused.









Elsa, away from those who witnessed her power, afraid and thinking her evil, is relieved to finally stop the charade and be in a place where she can finally be herself. While away, and alone, she blossoms physically and creatively, and emotionally is happy to be free. She is now able to openly use her power to create new surroundings, which are beyond what she realized her powers could accomplish - and it is stunningly beautiful! She never wants to go back to that prison and thinks that living a life in isolation, with freedom to be whom she is, is best for her and everyone. In this way, 'she' won't hurt anyone.




She is found by her sister, but rejects her - even hurts her and orders her away! Anna tells her that she is affecting everyone even though she left and has no intention of going back. Townspeople who sought her out to do away with the evil find her, she resorts to acting out of fear, and her powers come out again, more negatively. Elsa responds by using her powers to hurt those she says she doesn't want to hurt. She is totally confused and again frightened that she can't control the extent of how her power expresses itself.

More distorted messaging, by making society, or those considered homophobic/bigots the cause of the homosexual's "frozen" state. Because gays have no control over their same-sex preference, to expect moral behavior is unloving, cruel and ignorant, because what you’re asking is impossible. Being the victims of such abuse, they are forced to seek refuge in loneliness, in order to be who they are. It goes further though, in suggesting that society is hurt when homosexuality is not embraced suggesting further that such resistance is an inability, or unwillingness to love others. Bigotry. Conservative society is the block to homosexual freedom within society.





As the movie comes to a close, love, becomes the healing factor and without false judgment, ignorance and fear, by society, having been made to see themselves as Elsa's problem (and not Elsa), she is now able to suddenly control the negative use of her power. In fact, she is actually able to now use it to benefit society - the power of unconditional love.

For me, this is probably one of the most disturbing messages of the movie, Frozen, and of course, the bottom line in the twisted marketing to normalize homosexual behavior and legitimize same-sex marriage in society: the opposition to it is the problem - you.

Love, or romance, is at the heart of the quest for the legalization of SSM, as a human-right. Period. The equality argument is that those who oppose SSM are saying that homosexuals can't equally love, as heterosexuals, or that their love is less than what two heterosexuals feel for each other and thus legalize through "marriage.” For society to continue to bar gays from being married is to say that they are not capable of loving another person, in the same way as two heterosexuals. This narrow campaign is intended to completely disregard the exponential effects of children denied their natural birthright to have both a mother and a father. And when questioned about it, retort by claiming it more evidence of said discrimination, a.k.a, bigotry, hate, intolerance, etc.

This is the simplistic, and selfish, basis for marriage being deemed an equal right, which marriage only between a man and a woman implies by its exclusivity. And the reasons: ignorance, homophobia and discrimination in the same vein as the civil rights argument.

There is so much more that is easily drawn out of the movie Frozen, which illustrates the liberal advocacy to normalize homosexuality in society, by making society the problem and not the moral wrong that homosexual behavior/lifestyle, in fact, is.


Oh, and did you happen to catch the gay partner of the guy up at the lodge selling supplies to Hans, in the sauna with their kids? If you blinked, you probably missed it.

For those who would say that if you look for something hard enough you can find it, in just about anything, so be it. For those who saw a completely different, uplifting message in Frozen, that's great. Or any other positive and uplifting message you found to focus on in Frozen, which caused you to miss what the movie was really about, that's good. I'm not here to necessarily take any of that way; I'm here to challenge it though.

My main purpose, in being so bold, is to encourage parents to be mindful of liberal messaging in popular, mainstream media - even Disney. If parents are aware that it exists, pervasively, they will become more efficient in identifying it, thus better able to re-direct how their children internalize the message, or could - age appropriate.

How sad would it be, for diligent parents, who teach correct principles in the raising of their children, to find that their children, as they grow up, have developed, through mainstream social acceptance, unchallenged, these negative attitudes toward obedience, respect and moral absolutes. I believe it is wise to avoid parenting by assumption: assuming your children think and feel the same as you.

I also feel confident that we can identify false teachings, without demonizing individuals for making choices contrary to what we value and advocating for them in society.

Briefly, let's look at the very popular song from Frozen, which is now memorized by the vast majority of young children, who sing it at the tops of their lungs.

The song, "Let It Go" intends to send a strong, liberating gay message, but interestingly, many have dubbed it a theme song for letting general fears go, which keep us from doing good, or overcoming negative aspects in our lives.

However, in the actual lyrics of the song, that is not what it is saying. The message of "Let it Go" is specifically intended to rebel against moral absolutes, which have governed society for centuries, now being viewed by a progressive agenda as antiquated.


Disney Movie, Frozen: Let it Go







Lyrics: "Let It Go,” by Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez (Italics added for emphasis of homosexual messaging/attitudes mocked.)

The snow glows white on the mountain tonight
Not a footprint to be seen
A kingdom of isolation
And it looks like I'm the queen

The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside
Couldn't keep it in, Heaven knows I tried

Don't let them in, don't let them see
Be the good girl you always have to be
Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know
Well, now they know

Let it go, let it go
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door
I don't care what they're going to say
Let the storm rage on
The cold never bothered me anyway

It's funny how some distance makes everything seem small
And the fears that once controlled me can't get to me at all
It's time to see what I can do
To test the limits and break through
No right, no wrong, no rules for me
I'm free

Let it go, let it go
I'm one with the wind and sky
Let it go, let it go
You'll never see me cry
Here I stand and here I'll stay
Let the storm rage on

My power flurries through the air into the ground
My soul is spiraling in frozen fractals all around
And one thought crystallizes like an icy blast
I'm never going back, the past is in the past

Let it go, let it go
And I'll rise like the break of dawn
Let it go, let it go
That perfect girl is gone
Here I stand in the light of day
Let the storm rage on
The cold never bothered me anyway


Of note, Robert Lopez is credited for much of the award winning music in The Book of Mormon musical. In other words, these two lyricists know how to write strong messages to both mock opposition to what they advocate, in order to sway public perceptions and attitudes they oppose.

The words to "Let it Go" are clearly not Christian-values friendly, by any stretch of the imagination, when understood and heard. This is not an innocent song, with a catchy tune. It is rebellious. It mocks moral absolutes. It is careless. It is unaccountable. It is anti-obedience. It is regardless. It is selfish. And if you still disagree, then by all means, feel free to show me how I've misinterpreted the lyrics.

And this is only one song from the soundtrack to Frozen, intended to indoctrinate your children, and/or grandchildren, contrary to faith-based teachings. You might find it interesting, or not, but just recently the song writers have been giving interviews intended to cloud the messaging behind their lyrics, with absolutely no reference to homosexuality being their inspiration. Really? So perhaps (I hope), people are now starting to question Frozen, and these types of responses could very well be intended to make people, like me, out to be more of what they mock in the Frozen music lyrics: fearful, bigots, homophobic, and now, paranoid.

Now, if you're having a problem grasping what I'm saying here, check out this pro-progressive article, sent over by a friend who found it, after I shared some of my thoughts about Frozen, with her, which takes the time to extract some of the 'positive' messages found in Frozen to advocate their causes: 7 Moments That Made 'Frozen' the Most Progressive Disney Movie Ever.
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The gay agenda to normalize homosexuality is woven into Disney's movie Frozen not just as an underlying message - it is the movie. In a liberal culture tenacious at normalizing immorality, stripping those of faith from their ability to speak out in opposition, this needs to be taken seriously. It's one thing that we've all donated to the cause by making Frozen a record-breaking hit at the box office (myself included), but that's as far it's going, for me, personally.

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Now, if you're having a problem grasping what I'm saying here, check out this pro-progressive article, sent over by a friend who found it, after I shared some of my thoughts about Frozen, with her, which takes the time to extract some of the 'positive' messages found in Frozen to advocate their causes: 7 Moments That Made 'Frozen' the Most Progressive Disney Movie Ever.
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you could apply that kind of thinking to many pieces of literature and entertainment over the years

that is almost like how the truther nutjobs look at the events of sep 11

or how the ancient aliens guy looks at history
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:54 PM   #758
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Way too ****ing long. Didn't even consider reading.
I have a kid so I watched the movie. It wasn't very good, certainly not close to Despicable me or Monsters Inc. If you need a reason not to watch it that would be it. The whole anti-gay agenda thing can really get lame at times, this is a great example.
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:14 PM   #759
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Disney's Frozen advocates gay agenda.

http://wellbehavedmormonwoman.blogsp...l#.UwT4bWJdU8w
Wow... that woman has some issues......

She picked the movie apart piece by piece, and re-interpreted it to include a pro-homosexual agenda that she simply pulled out of her ass.

How weird....
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:21 PM   #760
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Wow... that woman has some issues......

She picked the movie apart piece by piece, and re-interpreted it to include a pro-homosexual agenda that she simply pulled out of her ass.

How weird....
Sometimes I think people make this shit up just to make anyone on the other side of the fence look stupid. If this is real that is just friggen amazing.
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Old 02-19-2014, 04:12 PM   #761
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you could apply that kind of thinking to many pieces of literature and entertainment over the years

that is almost like how the truther nutjobs look at the events of sep 11

or how the ancient aliens guy looks at history
Whoever wrote the Frozen review missed an even bigger deal--the movie contains a forbidden man-horse relationship.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:35 AM   #763
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Hopefully we can move on to what's next. After homosexuality becomes to meh to report on.

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Old 02-25-2014, 11:44 AM   #764
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Hopefully we can move on to what's next. After homosexuality becomes to meh to report on.

What we move on to? It's gotta be good

Beastiality is next.
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