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Rejecting Walmart Strategy, Trader Joe’s Pays Employees A Living Wage And Wins

We’ve watched as places like Walmart, Papa John’s, Target, Applebee’s and other businesses continue to pay sub-par wages while claiming their only option for profit, given the economy and their being “forced” to provide employees with insurance, is to either cut employees’ hours and/or their wages. This miserly strategy is justified and implemented despite the fact that research shows that raising wages would actually “benefit workers, the industry and the overall economy.”

Yet in the midst of Scroogian thinking, a handful of smarter businesses have stepped to the forefront to reject this “austerity” model for a different philosophy right in line with research: pay a good living wage, offer benefits and maximize one of your most important “assets”: your valued workforce. Top on that list of smart retailers is Costco; Tulsa-based convenience chain, QuikTrip, and consumer favorite, Trader Joe’s.

Trader Joe’s is particularly notable as a store that inspires an almost cult-like appreciation from its customers. Founded by its namesake, Joe Coulombe, the precursor of Trader Joe’s was a convenience store launched in Los Angeles in 1958 with the rather unimaginative name, Pronto Market. Deciding it wouldn’t be in his best interest to attempt to compete with the ubiquitous marketplace leader, 7-Eleven, Coulombe ultimately decided to specialize; rumor has it he got the idea of a “South Seas motif” while on a trip to the Caribbean, where he noticed American travelers enjoying and bringing back to the States unique items with an island flair. He opened his first official “Trader Joe’s” in Pasadena in 1967 (the original store is still there!) and it was an immediate hit; a 2008 Business Week article made the point that Trader Joe’s “sells twice as much per square foot than other supermarkets.”

Given its profitability, one might assume that, like Walmart and Target, it was operating under the strategy of categorizing employees as a “business cost” that needs to be minimized and kept under tight control. One would be wrong. From The Atlantic:

Many employers believe that one of the best ways to raise their profit margin is to cut labor costs. But companies like QuikTrip, the grocery-store chain Trader Joe’s, and Costco Wholesale are proving that the decision to offer low wages is a choice, not an economic necessity. All three are low-cost retailers, a sector that is traditionally known for relying on part-time, low-paid employees. Yet these companies have all found that the act of valuing workers can pay off in the form of increased sales and productivity. [Emphasis added.]

QuikTrip, Trader Joe’s, and Costco operate on a different model, Ton says. “They start with the mentality of seeing employees as assets to be maximized,” she says. As a result, their stores boast better operational efficiency and customer service, and those result in better sales. [... ]

The approach seems like common sense. Keeping shelves stocked and helping customers find merchandise are key to maximizing sales, and it takes human judgment and people skills to execute those tasks effectively. To see what happens when workers are devalued, look no further than Borders or Circuit City. Both big-box retailers saw sales plummet after staff cutbacks, and both ultimately went bankrupt.

There is also the issue of consumer perception. Places like Walmart and Papa John’s, one a retailer, the other a food service provider, both suffered and continue to take negative PR hits for paying low wages, “nickel-and-diming” employees on the issue of insurance benefits, and appearing to place the burden of economic change and demand on the backs of their workforce, all the more galling when company CEO’s are making multimillion dollar profits. Consumer good-will and the general perception of a business tend to take a beating when those at the helm come off as greedy, unethical, and denigrating of their workforce.

Trader Joe’s, Costco and Quik Trip, on the other hard, have engendered loyalty and expanded their public good will with positive, worker-protective strategies that exhibit the importance they place on their most valued asset: the people working for and with them, whose skills and hard work are essential to a healthy bottom-line. And that is, after all, the goal of any smart company.

Given its profitability, one might assume that, like Walmart and Target, it was operating under the strategy of categorizing employees as a “business cost” that needs to be minimized and kept under tight control. One would be wrong. From The Atlantic:

Many employers believe that one of the best ways to raise their profit margin is to cut labor costs. But companies like QuikTrip, the grocery-store chain Trader Joe’s, and Costco Wholesale are proving that the decision to offer low wages is a choice, not an economic necessity. All three are low-cost retailers, a sector that is traditionally known for relying on part-time, low-paid employees. Yet these companies have all found that the act of valuing workers can pay off in the form of increased sales and productivity. [Emphasis added.]


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Old 02-16-2014, 09:32 AM   #61
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Not to mention QuickTrip. You know, that convenient store chain that caters to all income levels, always has lower prices from gas to peanuts and pays their help pretty damn good.
Do they pay as much, the same or more than Caseys?
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:34 AM   #62
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Employee salaries are a pretty vital piece of any business model. The argument I always here from conservatives for paying such low wages is that the profit margins are so thin that they are forced to pay these poverty level wages. Companies like Costco, Hobby Lobby are proving that it's total bullshit.
I don't think it's clear that they prove that. How do you explain the different clientele between Costco and Walmart or do you believe they cater to the same group of people?
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Actually what these examples prove is not one is right, one wrong. It proves different business models coexist. A successful business model is the one that returns the desired result to ownership. Thats why we have Target vs Kmart vs Walmart vs Costco vs Sam's Club. And on and on in any sector targeted at any given audience.

Employee pay is not some weapon to be used on the battlefield for business. Its one small piece of the business itself. If We are competing over a fixed resource...there are only X number of people available to stock shelves in a trade area and there are two stores needing shelf stockers, pay will go up as they compete for a resource.

Walmart may choose to stock shelves at night. Costco in the day. Trader Joes may choose to not hire stockers but rather ask all employees to be mindful of stock and when a unit is low, go get more and restock the shelf. There are differences in jobs, expectations, and as a result pay.

Just as pricing is not a stand alone decision. Nor volume. Its all about the balance between the cost side and the return side. And 100% determined by the business objective the business sets for itself.
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Employee salaries are a pretty vital piece of any business model. The argument I always here from conservatives for paying such low wages is that the profit margins are so thin that they are forced to pay these poverty level wages. Companies like Costco, Hobby Lobby are proving that it's total bullshit.
What are the profit margins of Costco and Hobby Lobby? Are the different substantially from WalMart and Target?
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Do they pay as much, the same or more than Caseys?
I don't know what Casey's pays so I cannot comment.
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Actually what these examples prove is not one is right, one wrong. It proves different business models coexist. A successful business model is the one that returns the desired result to ownership. Thats why we have Target vs Kmart vs Walmart vs Costco vs Sam's Club. And on and on in any sector targeted at any given audience.

Employee pay is not some weapon to be used on the battlefield for business. Its one small piece of the business itself. If We are competing over a fixed resource...there are only X number of people available to stock shelves in a trade area and there are two stores needing shelf stockers, pay will go up as they compete for a resource.

Walmart may choose to stock shelves at night. Costco in the day. Trader Joes may choose to not hire stockers but rather ask all employees to be mindful of stock and when a unit is low, go get more and restock the shelf. There are differences in jobs, expectations, and as a result pay.

Just as pricing is not a stand alone decision. Nor volume. Its all about the balance between the cost side and the return side. And 100% determined by the business objective the business sets for itself.
Have to stop you right there at what I bolded. If that's the case then why all the excuses from the boards claiming if you don't provide golden parachutes and what not you won't get the best talent??? Sorry but that statement you made right there pretty much shoots a hole in your other arguments.
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Pete, I already explained to Lone that Costco pays workers more than Wal-Mart but they hire fewer workers. So choose: higher pay or more jobs. Just make that choice. Neither choice is wrong per se, but you must choose. You cannot have both.
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Have to stop you right there at what I bolded. If that's the case then why all the excuses from the boards claiming if you don't provide golden parachutes and what not you won't get the best talent??? Sorry but that statement you made right there pretty much shoots a hole in your other arguments.

I assume you know there are far more potential shelf stockers than CEOs. While aiming to shoot holes in what I post be careful you don't hit your foot.
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I don't know what Casey's pays so I cannot comment.
How much does Quik Trip pay?
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What are the profit margins of Costco and Hobby Lobby? Are the different substantially from WalMart and Target?
According to conservative doctorine, Costco and Hobby Lobby should be out of business with the inflated wages they pay. It couldn't be that having a low turnover rate actually saves you money by not having to constantly train new employees.
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Pete, I already explained to Lone that Costco pays workers more than Wal-Mart but they hire fewer workers. So choose: higher pay or more jobs. Just make that choice. Neither choice is wrong per se, but you must choose. You cannot have both.

Costcos Profit Margin is the suck. BUT...Maybe its in line with Costco Goals. They accept this margin

Annual revenue (last year) $105.2B
Annual profit (last year) $2.0B
Net profit margin 1.94%


WalMart Not a lot better but better Margin.

Annual revenue (last year) $469.2B
Annual profit (last year) $17.0B
Net profit margin 3.62%


Target....They worked a lot less hard than Costco and made 50% more profit. See how this works...Price/Volume interact and cost of operation interacts

Annual revenue (last year) $73.3B
Annual profit (last year) $3.0B
Net profit margin 4.09%
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How much does Quik Trip pay?
The sign at my store says they start at like 7.70/hr for clerks and managers at like 32K/year.

Honestly I don't think that's much different than what Walmart pays here for retail clerks and managers. I have no idea what benefits they may provide their employees though nor do I know how they operate with pay increases.
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A night assistant starts at about $11.00 an hour
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According to conservative doctorine, Costco and Hobby Lobby should be out of business with the inflated wages they pay. It couldn't be that having a low turnover rate actually saves you money by not having to constantly train new employees.

No that is absolutely not true. No business sets itself up in business to evaluate year end results on employee pay.

Conservative doctrine is some horseshit you just made up. Politics is one thing...business is another and year end results is the playing field. Costco and HL are happy. WMT is happy. Different goals, different strategy, different markets. Different results.
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A night assistant starts at about $11.00 an hour
What would someone working at walmart with same level job get paid?
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