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Old 02-17-2014, 10:51 AM  
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The Seven Black Presidents Before Barack Obama
December 1, 2008

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Were There Black US Presidents before? The people thought that Barack Obama is the first black President of the United States. Wrong.

1. John Hanson (a Moor) was actually the 1st President of the United States, he served from 1781 – 1782 and he was black. The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).

Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As President, Hanson ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as removal of all foreign flags. He established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents since have been required to use on all Official Documents. He declared that the 4th Thursday of every November to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today. Even though elected, one variable that was never thought through was that America was not going to accept a Black President during the heart of the enslavement period. Enter George Washington.

2. Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States, he served from 1801 – 1809 and he was black. His mother a half-breed Indian squaw and his father a mulatto (half white and half black) from Virginia. He fathered numerous children with Sally Hemmings, a mulatto slave with whom he lived with in Europe.

3. Andrew Jackson was the 7th President of the United States. He served from 1829 – 1837 and he was black. His mother was a white woman from Ireland who had Andrew Jackson with a black man. His father’s other children (Andrew Jackson’s stepbrother) was sold into slavery.

4. Abraham Lincoln was the 16th President of the United States, he served from 1861 – 1865 and he was black. His mother was from an Ethiopian Tribe and his father was an African American. It was told that his father was Thomas Lincoln, a man to cover the truth, but he was sterile from childhood mumps and was later castrated, making it impossible for him to have been his father. Lincoln’s nickname “Abraham Africa-nus the First.”

5. Warren Harding was the 28th President of the United States, he served from 1921 – 1923 and he was black. Harding never denied his ancestry. When Republican leaders called on Harding to deny his “Negro” history, he said, “How should I know whether or not one of my ancestors might have jumped the fence?”

6. Calvin Coolidge was the 29th President of the United States, he served from 1923 – 1929 and he was black. He proudly admitted that his mother was dark but claimed it was because of a mixed Indian ancestry. His mother’s maiden name was “Moor.” In Europe the name “Moor” was given to all Black people just as in America the name “Negro” was used.

7. Dwight E. Eisenhower was the 33rd President of the United States, he served from 1953 – 1961 and he was black. His mother, Ida Elizabeth Stover Eisenhower, an anti-war advocate, was half black.

So, America has survived and thrived through our first Seven Black Presidents and we will survive and THRIVE through the election
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:25 PM   #31
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:04 PM   #32
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:13 PM   #33
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They aren't 100% conclusive, but it is pretty likely that TJ is the daddy of at least one and probably all of the Hemming kids.

The DNA proves it was a Jefferson male. Records show that only a few of them ever visited Monticello, and none of TJ's relatives could be placed there at the time of conception of Sally's kids. Despite his travels and extensive time away from Monticello, TJ was there at the time of each of her 6 kids would have been conceived.
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The DNA tests were not able to definitely prove or disprove, but the most plausible explanation is that he fathered her children. The Thomas Jefferson Historical Foundation at Monticello has stated as much.

http://www.monticello.org/site/plant...-brief-account
I was simply pointing out he made a matter of fact statement and was talking out his ass. I was going to just let it stand on its own stupidity. When cosmo called him on it he stuck to his guns. I at that point jumped in if only to dare him into trying to backup his boast. I expect little from him as I view him as a Bambi level poster~
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:20 PM   #34
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I think this picture may be historically inaccurate. I thought they only wore clothes after Eve ate the apple. Here, she is clearly wearing some "clothing" and she hasn't yet taken a bite. Adam appears to only be holding a branch over his junk, though.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:28 PM   #35
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They aren't 100% conclusive,
Thank you, that's all you needed to say. If something isn't conclusive, then he's presumed innocent. Just like inconclusive DNA testing in a criminal case.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:30 PM   #36
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I was simply pointing out he made a matter of fact statement and was talking out his ass. I was going to just let it stand on its own stupidity. When cosmo called him on it he stuck to his guns. I at that point jumped in if only to dare him into trying to backup his boast. I expect little from him as I view him as a Bambi level poster~

You cannot possibly be this stupid. There's no burden on me to "back up" anything. The burden is on Cosmo to prove it. And since by his own admission it is inconclusive, he failed to do so.
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Thank you, that's all you needed to say. If something isn't conclusive, then he's presumed innocent. Just like inconclusive DNA testing in a criminal case.
You said "it has been proved the accusations were false" you were either lying or ignorant of the facts~
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:34 PM   #38
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Jefferson didnt father Hemmigs children, it was a relative of his (perhaps his brother) and DNA testing has already proved the slanderous attack to be false
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You cannot possibly be this stupid. There's no burden on me to "back up" anything. The burden is on Cosmo to prove it. And since by his own admission it is inconclusive, he failed to do so.
The one thing that seems to be conclusively proven here is that you were wrong when you said that DNA had proven the allegations against Jefferson to be false.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:38 PM   #40
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Thank you, that's all you needed to say. If something isn't conclusive, then he's presumed innocent. Just like inconclusive DNA testing in a criminal case.
Yeah, nice try. And, this isn't a criminal trial.

Anyway, your statement:
"Jefferson didnt father Hemmigs children, it was a relative of his (perhaps his brother) and DNA testing has already proved the slanderous attack to be false."

The part I bolded is absolutely 100% false. DNA testing proved it was TJ or a male relative. It did not in any way prove it wasn't him.

The DNA + that it appears that he was on the scene at all 6 conceptions, while there are no records of any other possible suspects being present at even 1, makes it fairly conclusive to those who have studied the issue.
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You said "it has been proved the accusations were false" you were either lying, ignorant of the facts~
It has been by the Thomas Jefferson Society's 13-member research panel's 400 page report. The DNA only narrowed down 24 possible Jefferson matches - the rest is speculation and postulating. Once you undercut the evidence and/or create legitimate doubt, it's presumed false.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...childre/print/

I'd love to see you dragged into a paternity case with such flimsy DNA evidence.
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Yeah, nice try. And, this isn't a criminal trial.
The same mechanics of burden of proof apply.


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DNA testing proved it was TJ or a male relative. It did not in any way prove it wasn't him.
It was one of 24 Jeffersons living in the area. You've got that going for you. My math says that's a 4% chance you're right. If you rely on circumstantial evidence beyond that (which you must), then the DNA evidence becomes nearly worthless.
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It has been by the Thomas Jefferson Society's 13-member research panel's 400 page report. The DNA only narrowed down 24 possible Jefferson matches - the rest is speculation and postulating. Once you undercut the evidence and/or create legitimate doubt, it's presumed false.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...childre/print/

I'd love to see you dragged into a paternity case with such flimsy DNA evidence.
is this where you claim to own someone or to make them tap out? I owe Bambi an apology for comparing him to you~
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The one thing that seems to be conclusively proven here is that you were wrong when you said that DNA had proven the allegations against Jefferson to be false.
I think a 4% chance of something being true suggests it's not. However, I will stipulate that the 4% odds do allow that he could be the father, but DNA testing hasn't proved that whatsoever. And no family court would even bother to dignify such results.
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