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Old 02-18-2014, 10:18 PM  
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Date: 2/18/2014 16:48


This is an Amber Alert, the Springfield Missouri Police Department has issued an Amber Alert that occured at 3247 west Lombard at 4:48 pm on 02/18/14. Abducted was Hailey Owens a white female 10 years old. The suspect vehicle is a gold 2008 Ford Ranger Missouri registration 1YF454. The vehicle was last seen southbound on Scenic from Grand in Springfield, Missouri. The suspect is a white male, no further description is available. The victim, Hailey M. Owens is a white female 10 years old, 5 foot 2 inches tall, weighing 90 pounds with long brown hair, brown eyes and pierced ears. Owens was last seen wearing blue jean shorts and purple sandals.. . Please Contact Springfield Police Department at 417-864-1810


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Old 02-19-2014, 09:18 PM   #226
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Can you imagine how those background checks would be worded in order to satisfy the dreams of some people around here?

Hasn't yet killed any children: yes / no
Predisposed to murder of children: yes / no

How on earth do you determine this stuff in a grown person?
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:21 PM   #227
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I'm just saying unless it's determined the killer has a prior history of abducting and murdering small children (which is of course sick by all accounts) then something ****ed up happened with the guy.
perhaps, perhaps not

Seems like the best thing would be to require a yearly psych eval but that's still not a guarantee. Might help though.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:37 PM   #228
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Guy could be nuttier than a fruit cake but he still needs to fry.
Insanity plea shouldn't apply in cases involving adults harming children.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:38 PM   #229
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:50 PM   #230
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Guy could be nuttier than a fruit cake but he still needs to fry.
Insanity plea shouldn't apply in cases involving adults harming children.
Amen. Or due process. You should be destroyed instantly if you harm a child.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:51 PM   #231
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Parents, its a shitty world out there. There are freaks all over. Don't let your kids wander alone. Sick ****s like this guy are out there.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:54 PM   #232
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Truly heartbreaking MTG....So sorry for your families loss....
And not one **** should be given to the perp....
And not one bullet should be wasted....
I propose he is hung like a chunk of chicken and suspended about
1 foot over the largest gator swamp in Louisiana.....
Complete ****ing garbage this guy is.....
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:07 PM   #233
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Can you imagine how those background checks would be worded in order to satisfy the dreams of some people around here?

Hasn't yet killed any children: yes / no
Predisposed to murder of children: yes / no

How on earth do you determine this stuff in a grown person?
It's not possible.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:07 PM   #234
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Parents, its a shitty world out there. There are freaks all over. Don't let your kids wander alone. Sick ****s like this guy are out there.
Wasn't she a block from her house? I let my kid wander around that distance every day of the week. She also knows to beat feet if any stranger comes around or a car comes near her asking questions.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:10 PM   #235
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Wasn't she a block from her house? I let my kid wander around that distance every day of the week. She also knows to beat feet if any stranger comes around or a car comes near her asking questions.
It's a tough predicament for sure. I think you have to give them that freedom, though.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:12 PM   #236
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There was one time that I thought my sister had been abducted. I was 17 or so which would have made her about Hailey's age at the time. Luckily, it turned out that she had just gone with her friend to another friend's apartment in our building. It was night time though and scared the shit out of me. Literally the worst feeling I've ever had. Nothing even comes close.

I can't imagine how anyone in this situations feels. I'm sorry.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:13 PM   #237
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It's very tough to keep an eye on them 100%, but you go to try to be as vigilant as possible.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:18 PM   #238
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:24 PM   #239
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From what I've learned over the years of having a child abuse and neglect investigator at the dinner table, you usually don't just snap into a child predator.
Yea, that's what's odd. He appears on the surface to just have been a mostly normal dude for most of his life....then just snapped and decided to kidnap a kid one day? Wut?

But it did appear to be planned. He kidnapped her, killed her, bleach cleaned it up, washed his clothes at a local wash, and boxed her up in some totes, then got caught all within a 3 1/2 hour period.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:30 PM   #240
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Wasn't she a block from her house? I let my kid wander around that distance every day of the week. She also knows to beat feet if any stranger comes around or a car comes near her asking questions.
Good. One of my biggest pet peeves about modern society is our constant state of fear. While my deepest sympathies are with the girl's family, the fact is that kids aren't any less safe today than they were 50 years ago. In fact, most of the stats say they're more safe than they've ever been. Teaching your kids to be smart, but let them have some semblance of independence. Kids need to learn to be kids.

EDIT: Found this to emphasize the point.


http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

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