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Old 02-02-2015, 10:09 AM  
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Creationist Ken Ham is Angry That Carnival Referenced Evolution During Its Super Bowl

Last night, the Carnival Corporation aired its first-ever Super Bowl commercial. It featured the voice of President John F. Kennedy talking about returning to the sea:

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I really don’t know why it is that all of us are so committed to the sea, except I think it is because in addition to the fact that the sea changes and the light changes and ships change, it’s because we all came from the sea. And it is an interesting biological fact that all of us have, in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean, and, therefore, we have salt in our blood, in our sweat, in our tears. We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch it we are going back from whence we came.
As far as commercials go, I have to say it was pretty effective. I’d never heard those words before, but they really resonate.
Unless you’re Creationist Ken Ham and you saw this as evolution propaganda. Somehow, in his world, a beautiful harkening to the sea is really a reminder that our lives are just meaningless:

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Don’t you just feel this “personal connection?” After all, your ancestor came out of the sea and evolved by natural processes to produce you. Don’t you feel the connection? Don’t you just want to go on one of their cruises so you can stand on the deck of a big cruise ship, look at the sea, and contemplate your accidental beginnings — and perhaps worship the sea, because it gave birth to you!
Oh — and really, you can spend a lot of money on such a cruise, but because you evolved from the sea and are just an evolved animal, and when you die you won’t even know you existed — so you won’t even remember the cruise — so what’s the point anyway? You just evolved to have an ultimately meaningless existence!
Right, that’s what Kennedy was saying. It was about nihilism, not a boating contest.
We see a connection to the world around us… Ham sees only sin:

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So — worship the stars and worship the sea! That’s the increasing state of our culture as it abandons the truth of God’s Word.
Except for the fact that it’s a spiritual issue because of our sin, it’s mind-boggling to think that intelligent people can actually believe life (and the whole universe) came about by accident! Ludicrous!
It is indeed mind-blowing… but it makes sense after you read up on it. Ken Ham should try it sometime. Turns out you can learn a lot when your library consists of more than just a single book.


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Old 02-02-2015, 10:16 AM   #3
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The ad annoyed me (which means it was effective) because it absolutely was a pro evolution message. The vast majority of Americans do not believe "we came from the sea". I am not certain if JFK was arguing such given he was Catholic but the evolution theme of that ad is totally undeniable
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The ad annoyed me (which means it was effective) because it absolutely was a pro evolution message. The vast majority of Americans do not believe "we came from the sea". I am not certain if JFK was arguing such given he was Catholic but the evolution theme of that ad is totally undeniable
So you actually believe this isn't true?
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:20 AM   #5
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The ad annoyed me (which means it was effective) because it absolutely was a pro evolution message. The vast majority of Americans do not believe "we came from the sea". I am not certain if JFK was arguing such given he was Catholic but the evolution theme of that ad is totally undeniable
Anyone who doesn't agree that evolution is the unifying theory in biology is a goddamn mouth-breathing retard.
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.4 amount of salt.

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And you can do whatever you want as long as you apologize to god so you can go to heaven.
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And you can do whatever you want as long as you apologize to god so you can go to heaven.
not how it works.


you're like a child caught in a lie...just keep on lying.
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not how it works.


you're like a child caught in a lie...just keep on lying.
You would have a point if the entire christian canon didn't agree with me.
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You would have a point if the entire christian canon didn't agree with me.
aaaand ...another lie.
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aaaand ...another lie.
In christianity, all you have to do is accept jeebus chrisp as your lord and savior and you are let into heaven.

Please point out where I lied suzieray.
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The fact I even responded to this thread would absolutely lead the intelligent man to question my sanity. I read up on JFK quote and it was before an Americas Cup race in 1962. But I still don't know why he said we came from the Sea, since we didn't.
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Anyone who doesn't agree that evolution is the unifying theory in biology is a goddamn mouth-breathing retard.
Hey try to be nicer than that to sr and Prison Bitch. Forgive their inequities.
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The fact I even responded to this thread would absolutely lead the intelligent man to question my sanity. I read up on JFK quote and it was before an Americas Cup race in 1962. But I still don't know why he said we came from the Sea, since we didn't.
Now we can see openly the damage that religion does. Thanks for participating and helping reinforce for the rest of us my point. Thanks my friend.
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