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Old 02-19-2014, 08:14 PM  
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Anyone Following The Protests In The Ukraine?

I've been seeing some impressive pics of protests in Kiev.


Protests against new anti-democratic laws in Ukraine are increasing in intensity, with four citizens reported dead. As you can see in these extraordinary images by Ilya Varlamov, the demonstrators are using rockets made with fireworks. They look like scenes from some science-fiction movie about urban warfare.

The latest reports talk about at least four people killed and hundreds injured by the police. After the massive protests against the government's rejection against the European Union in favor of an alliance with the former Russian oppressors, Kiev officials announced new repressive laws limiting the people's right to protest. These urban battles are the people's reaction to those laws.

Ukraine was a former Soviet Republic, created after a civil war between pro-communist and the Ukrainian People's Republic armies at the beginning of the 20th century, right after the fall of the Russian Empire. The communists won, and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was established. In theory, it was an independent state, but in fact—like all republics in the USSR and satellite countries—it was under a tight control by the Kremlin.

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Old 03-19-2014, 09:29 AM   #1741
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Putin gave out his speech on Crimea:

"Federation Council members, State Duma deputies, good afternoon. Representatives of the Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol are here among us, citizens of Russia, residents of Crimea and Sevastopol!

Dear friends, we have gathered here today in connection with an issue that is of vital, historic significance to all of us. A referendum was held in Crimea on March 16 in full compliance with democratic procedures and international norms.

More than 82 percent of the electorate took part in the vote. Over 96 percent of them spoke out in favour of reuniting with Russia. These numbers speak for themselves.

To understand the reason behind such a choice it is enough to know the history of Crimea and what Russia and Crimea have always meant for each other.

Everything in Crimea speaks of our shared history and pride. This is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptised. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilisation and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. The graves of Russian soldiers whose bravery brought Crimea into the Russian empire are also in Crimea. This is also Sevastopol – a legendary city with an outstanding history, a fortress that serves as the birthplace of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Crimea is Balaklava and Kerch, Malakhov Kurgan and Sapun Ridge. Each one of these places is dear to our hearts, symbolising Russian military glory and outstanding valour...

In people’s hearts and minds, Crimea has always been an inseparable part of Russia. This firm conviction is based on truth and justice and was passed from generation to generation, over time, under any circumstances, despite all the dramatic changes our country went through during the entire 20th century..."

Link: http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/6889

Regardless you agree with the man or not, it is a forceful speech. Reminds me of the one Hitler gave after Germany annexed the Sudetenland.

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Old 03-19-2014, 09:29 AM   #1742
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You're so blinded by your single-source-fed, anti-NeoCon tunnel-visioned mind, you're acting like a complete idiot.
You calling someone else "tunnel visioned"????? Ooooh, that's rich.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:30 AM   #1743
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Did you know bolding that much text impedes readibility, Msmith? If you want people to read it I suggest you unbold it. I used to teach typography. That's a big no-no.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:30 AM   #1744
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:31 AM   #1745
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:32 AM   #1746
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Did you say something Donger?
Actually, yes, but it had nothing to do with you, you delusional twat.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:34 AM   #1747
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Regardless you agree with the man or not, it is a forceful speech. Reminds me of the one Hitler gave after Germany annexed the Sudetenland.
That's a really piss poor comparison especially when you omit what the US has been doing over there. Putin is not Hitler.

I saw last night Putin mentioning how Americans ( I'm sure he really meant the certain members of govt though) thought of themselves as "unique" as in having a right to be involved everywhere to make everyone over in our eyes. This is no different than what the Nazis thought of themselves.

Now, take a look at those videos I put up and check out the Russian in Crimea calling Americans "pieces of shit!" Our images has been eroding under progressive internationalists while they build their New Order and create endless wars.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:43 AM   #1748
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McCain is hell bent of getting us into a war with Russia. The man is insane.

McCain’s Eleven Point Plan For War
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McDaniel is with Ron Paul's Peace and Prosperity Institute.

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Are your impeccable sources fellow inmates in your looney bin? McCain isn't trying to get us into a war with Russia, he's trying to get us to demonstrate the type of strength and resolve it will take to discourage Putin from pushing further into Europe. You're talking about McCain the way a lot of people talked about Reagan when he was campaigning about how to fix the problems created by Carter weakness.
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Regardless you agree with the man or not, it is a forceful speech. Reminds me of the one Hitler gave after Germany annexed the Sudetenland.
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President George H. W. Bush promised Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev that – if the Soviets broke up the Soviet Union and dissolved the Warsaw Pact – then NATO would not move into those former Soviet countries. This assured the Soviets that NATO would not encircle Russia. But Bill Clinton broke America’s promise, and the U.S. has pursued a campaign of encircling Russia ever since
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So it's the US that's been breaking it's agreements. Looks to me like it's stemming from the World Govt crowd too. Let's not enable them here by staying out of this altogether from sanctions, to sending military aid and jets.
Of course. The big one there was East Germany. We promised if they let East Germany go free, we wouldn't move past. And we did. We lied, and they're sick of our lies.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:48 AM   #1751
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Of course. The big one there was East Germany. We promised if they let East Germany go free, we wouldn't move past. And we did. We lied, and they're sick of our lies.
Where did we promise that?
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Where did we promise that?
When will you start contributing to these threads?
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:57 AM   #1753
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When will you start contributing to these threads?
You made a claim. Back it up, please.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:17 AM   #1754
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When will you start contributing to these threads?
He can't. He's a question machine that operates on a repeating circuit.
That, and his answer was provided just above on this page. That tells you all you need to know about him being a robot operating on circuits. That and he may not know what the Warsaw Pact was.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:20 AM   #1755
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Msmith,

I am giving you an assignment:
Compare and Contrast American Exceptionalism to Germany circa 1030's, please.
Particularly, what followed such beliefs and thoughts.

Thank you.
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