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Old 02-19-2014, 08:14 PM  
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Anyone Following The Protests In The Ukraine?

I've been seeing some impressive pics of protests in Kiev.


Protests against new anti-democratic laws in Ukraine are increasing in intensity, with four citizens reported dead. As you can see in these extraordinary images by Ilya Varlamov, the demonstrators are using rockets made with fireworks. They look like scenes from some science-fiction movie about urban warfare.

The latest reports talk about at least four people killed and hundreds injured by the police. After the massive protests against the government's rejection against the European Union in favor of an alliance with the former Russian oppressors, Kiev officials announced new repressive laws limiting the people's right to protest. These urban battles are the people's reaction to those laws.

Ukraine was a former Soviet Republic, created after a civil war between pro-communist and the Ukrainian People's Republic armies at the beginning of the 20th century, right after the fall of the Russian Empire. The communists won, and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was established. In theory, it was an independent state, but in fact—like all republics in the USSR and satellite countries—it was under a tight control by the Kremlin.

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Old 03-01-2014, 07:19 AM   #271
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So I guess Putin is the latest Hitler.
Hitler #1 Saddam Hussein
Hitler #1 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Hitler #3 Muammar Gaddafi
Hitler #4 Bashar al-Assad
Hitler #5 Vladimir Putin
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:21 AM   #272
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consequences are huge either way. no other country will be willing to give up their nukes in the future.

Can lead to an arms race in South east Asia as Japan and others wont believe that the US will live up to their agreements. Can also lead to an arms race in the middle east.

will be good business for the military-industrial complex.
It could also lead to a World War with Iran allying with Russia and more.
JC the war mongering NEVER ends. And it's always govts that make it fester.
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:37 AM   #273
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Boo-Hoo! Court orders House Arrest for Aleksei Navalny!

Meanwhile, our govt tries to arrest a whistleblower named Snowden. Our govt spies on its citizens; is busy federalizing and militarizing local police. Our current leader wants video cameras in newsrooms and a way to shut down the internet; claims to right to kill US citizens without due process.

UNBELIEVABLE how so many Americans lack awareness these days. And some have the nerve to call it "American Exceptionalism." Sound like a bunch of Teddy Roosevelts and Woodrow Wilsons.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:28 AM   #274
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:31 AM   #275
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Russian upper house approves use of force in Ukraine

And so it begins...

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(CNN) -- Russia's upper house of parliament voted Saturday to approve the use of military force in Ukraine. The vote was unanimous.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:32 AM   #276
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:07 AM   #277
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And so it begins...
http://www.itv.com/news/2014-02-28/o...kraine-troops/

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Old 03-01-2014, 10:19 AM   #278
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Actually... it's a known fact that Yanukovych and his sons have all become billionaires during his presidency.

PB, why do you keep posting stupid things about subjects you know nothing about?
He's very pro-Putin. It's weird. I've heard of a tiny minority of conservatives who think of Putin as the new hero of social conservatism, but it's such a nutty idea that I didn't pay much attention to it. I don't know if that's what motivates Prison Bitch or not, but it seems possible.
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:27 AM   #279
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:31 AM   #280
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I don't think any conservatives are really pro-Putin. Numerous of us have laughed at his running rings around Obama on the foreign policy stage. You don't need to know anything about this conflict to see that Obama has voted "present"
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:31 AM   #281
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Actually... it's a known fact that Yanukovych and his sons have all become billionaires during his presidency.
Well-known? Riiiiiight. Another desperate attempt to try and get Westerners to (1) put Ukraine on our public dole and (2) agree with the protestors who engaged in a coup to overthrow a duly elected leader. But assuming they did steal....who gives a shit? Why would any American care?


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PB, why do you keep posting stupid things about subjects you know nothing about?
I'm posting nothing but facts and links. If you don't like it, I really don't care. But nearly 80% of Americans recently polled don't want anything to do with Ukraine either. I couldn't care less about either side in this conflict but I do care about OUR side.
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I don't think any conservatives are really pro-Putin. Numerous of us have laughed at his running rings around Obama on the foreign policy stage. You don't need to know anything about this conflict to see that Obama has voted "present"
I wouldn't think there were any real pro-Putin conservatives either, but it seems like Prison Bitch goes beyond just laughing at Obama's incompetence.
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And so it begins...
This is why you don't get rid of nukes if you have them.

The pacts that get signed by countries don't mean shit.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:21 AM   #284
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very curious. i was watching the contents of that video happen on a live stream as it occurred, and had no idea who the guy was, or what he was saying. all i knew for sure was that the crowd seemed to be behind what he was saying a lot more than any of the opposition leaders who were speaking just before him. in the days since i'd read about how a random guy jumped on the stage and seized the mic to "rally the crowd". last night I ran across that article on Parasiuk, which helped clear things up for me a bit. the CC translation was not quite word-for-word, as I suspected, and I thank you very much for providing a more complete translation.
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I don't think any conservatives are really pro-Putin.
No.

It's only funny because we're so terrible at international diplomacy we're laughable now.

Putin could go fishing or sailing with Bush and convince him, over time, he was the bestest buddy in the world.

Obama just sits there on the ground looking stupid after Putin pushes him down and goes through his lunch box...
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