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Old 02-19-2014, 08:14 PM  
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Anyone Following The Protests In The Ukraine?

I've been seeing some impressive pics of protests in Kiev.


Protests against new anti-democratic laws in Ukraine are increasing in intensity, with four citizens reported dead. As you can see in these extraordinary images by Ilya Varlamov, the demonstrators are using rockets made with fireworks. They look like scenes from some science-fiction movie about urban warfare.

The latest reports talk about at least four people killed and hundreds injured by the police. After the massive protests against the government's rejection against the European Union in favor of an alliance with the former Russian oppressors, Kiev officials announced new repressive laws limiting the people's right to protest. These urban battles are the people's reaction to those laws.

Ukraine was a former Soviet Republic, created after a civil war between pro-communist and the Ukrainian People's Republic armies at the beginning of the 20th century, right after the fall of the Russian Empire. The communists won, and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was established. In theory, it was an independent state, but in fact—like all republics in the USSR and satellite countries—it was under a tight control by the Kremlin.

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Old 06-02-2014, 07:34 PM   #3121
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I don't recall saying the fascist took over. I do recall saying the choices in the election were all fascist though. Is that what you mean? You're gonna have to use a quote and link the page as well so I can see the context.
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How can Russia be a bully if the people in Crimea or the Ukraine want to be with it?
Then not criticize those who overthrew the govt there earlier who are made up of Neo Nazis? Logic fail all around.

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'Er well actually you're with the Neo-Nazi or Neo-Fascists we put in power in Kiev, patteeu.

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I brought up how Ukrainians had past pogroms against Jews.

I also stated that the ones who overthrew the govt there were Neo-Nazis but Pants denied it. Now neo-Nazis also hate communists and many jews were also communists during the Bolshevik revolutions. Today, many of the oligarchs we here about are Jewish too. Amazing, the players we use or ally with while supporting Israel at the same time. The place is a mess. It has no strategic value to us.
I hope this is enough. I really don't feel like spending too much time on this.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:40 PM   #3122
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"We" meaning you and Natasha and KCN? While everyone else INCLUDING the actual President did exactly what I said. Boy you really got one over on me!

You're dangerously stupid and you don't even realize it. You live in your own little world.
You know you're desperate when you're reduced to saying "Obama did what I woulda done!"
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:28 PM   #3123
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What an effing crook this Ambassador is:

The Ambassador of Ukraine says “Of course, $27 billion is only the minimum [IMF] rescue package for the Ukrainian economy…”

Bailouts of governments are the same as bailouts of any bank or company, financial or industrial. They reward incompetence, corruption, theft, and wrong policies.
The right claims to be against rewarding incompetence and wrong policies by corporations but I don't see any outcry in rewarding incompetence, wrong policies, as well as corruption and theft by govts.

The United States funds the largest portion of the IMF. So I classify Ukraine has not different than any other parasitic welfare recipient.

Mismanaged governments get bailouts too.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:43 PM   #3124
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Since the overthrow of pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich in February, Russia has demanded a sharp increase in the price Ukraine pays for gas. Kiev says it cannot afford it and wants the discounted price it negotiated in the past.

While the dispute has dragged on, Gazprom has continued billing Kiev at the higher rate. It says Ukraine already owes it more than $5 billion in unpaid bills and is running up more debt at a rate of more than $1 billion per month.

But after Kiev paid off $786 million of its gas debt, Gazprom announced a six-day extension of the deadline until June 9.

Imagine getting a $500 bill from Kansas Gas and paying only $78 of it.
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:04 AM   #3125
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At long last it has happened. In 14 years I have never had anyone on ignore till now. Guess who?
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