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2014 NFL Combine - Players - The WRs

Wide Receivers:

Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin
6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Davante Adams, Fresno State
6'1", 212 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9" hands

Odell Beckham, LSU
5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands

Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State
6'5", 240 lb., 34 7/8" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Christopher Boyd, Vanderbilt
6'4", 206 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Philly Brown, Ohio State
5'11", 178 lb., 31 3/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands

John Brown, Pittsburg State
5'11", 179 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 8 1/2" hands

Martavis Bryant, Clemson
6'3 1/2", 211 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Isaiah Burse, Fresno State
5'10", 188 lb., 30 1/4" arms, 8 3/8" hands

Michael Campanaro, Wake Forest
5'9", 192 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Brandon Coleman Rutgers
6'6", 225 lb., 34" arms, 9 1/4" hands

Kain Colter, Northwestern
5'10", 198 lb., 31" arms, 10" hands

Brandin Cooks, Oregon State
5'9 1/2", 189 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Damian Copeland, Louisville
5'11", 184 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9" hands

Mike Davis, Texas
6'0", 197 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands

Bruce Ellington, South Carolina
5'9 1/4", 197 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska
6'2", 225 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Mike Evans, Texas A&M
6'4 1/2", 231 lb., 35 1/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Shaq Evans, UCLA
6'1", 213 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Bennie Fowler, Michigan State
6'1", 217 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Austin Franklin, New Mexico State
5'11", 189 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10" hands

Jeremy Gallon, Michigan
5'7", 185 lb., 29 1/2" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Ryan Grant, Tulane
6'0", 199 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Matt Hazel, Coastal Carolina
6'1", 198 lb., 31 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands

Robert Herron, Wyoming
5'9", 193 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Cody Hoffman, BYU
6'4", 223 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Josh Huff, Oregon
5'11", 206 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Allen Hurns, Miami (FL)
6'1", 198 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/4" hands

Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley State
6'3", 219 lb., 32 1/2" arms, 9" hands

T.J. Jones, Notre Dame
6'0", 188 lb., 30 5/8" arms, 10" hands

Jarvis Landry, LSU
5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Cody Latimer, Indiana
6'2", 215 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Marqise Lee, USC
5'11 1/2", 192 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Marcus Lucas, Missouri
6'4", 218 lb., 33 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
6'3", 212 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 10 3/4" hands

Donte Moncrief, Mississippi
6'2", 221 lb., 32 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands

Kevin Norwood, Alabama
6'2", 198 lb., 32 1/8" arms, 10" hands

Walt Powell, Murray State
5'11", 189 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Tevin Reese, Baylor
5'10", 163 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 8 5/8" hands

Paul Richardson, Colorado
6'0", 175 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 8 7/8" hands

Allen Robinson, Penn State
6'2 1/4", 220 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma
5'9", 163 lb., 30" arms, 8 7/8" hands

Willie Snead, Ball State
5'11", 195 lb., 31" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Josh Stewart, Oklahoma State
5'10", 178 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Devin Street, Pittsburgh
6'3", 198 lb., 33 2/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands

L'Damian Washington, Missouri
6'4", 195 lb., 33 3/8" arms, 9" hands

Sammy Watkins, Clemson
6'0 1/2", 211 lb., 32" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Albert Wilson, Georgia State
5'9", 202 lb., 30 3/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands


2013 Top WR Drafted & Combine Results:

Tavon Austion, West Virginia
5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands
Bench: 14 reps
40: 4.34 seconds
Vertical: 32.0"
Broad Jump: 120.0"
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds

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Old 04-18-2014, 06:06 AM   #181
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And it's ****ing retarded to say that Fisher was in anywhere near as good of a position to succeed as Sheldon Richardson. That DL was already very good when he got there.
He didn't have to learn to play on the complete opposite side he has always played on. He didn't have to play next to a failed G who got benched. He didn't have to go through injuries.

From the moment Eric Fisher was drafted anyone who follows this team knew he was taken on his incredible ability. Nobody said he was going to be an insanely talented player year 1 like Matt Kalil. Hell none of the other 2 OT's drafted early did shit either. Should they be cut too?

For crying out loud man. You saying a rookie is a bad movie after 1 goddamn year in general is pure idiocy. It's even more retarded when you realize the guy is playing his natural position on the left side in year 2.

Give it at least this season to see how he's doing. Christ.
This rookie was taken first overall. Not in the third round, he was hailed by the chiefs as the best player in the draft.

You keep bringing up other players, they don't matter.

The guy failed at playing rt, but we are supposed to think hell magically improve at lt?
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:40 AM   #182
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The expectations with Fisher were set to high by fans right out of the gate.
No, no, no ****ing no.

It is NOT unrealistic to expect the FIRST OVERALL pick to be better than Fisher was.

Forget dominant, he was flat out TERRIBLE at times. TERRIBLE.
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:44 AM   #183
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This rookie was taken first overall. Not in the third round, he was hailed by the chiefs as the best player in the draft.

You keep bringing up other players, they don't matter.

The guy failed at playing rt, but we are supposed to think hell magically improve at lt?
He played LT in college. Switching to RT is like a left handed batter switching to the right side. It's not easy, especially for a rookie.

This year we'll find out what Fisher will do. But for now it's pretty ****ing stupid to judge this kid solely on last years circumstance.
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:49 AM   #184
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He played LT in college. Switching to RT is like a left handed batter switching to the right side. It's not easy, especially for a rookie.

This year we'll find out what Fisher will do. But for now it's pretty ****ing stupid to judge this kid solely on last years circumstance.
If he were getting beat solely because I technique, you'd have a point.

But he was physically overmatched
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:50 AM   #185
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What else do we have to judge him on?

Up to this point, he hasn't even been a replacement level player. Not that that can't change, but in his first year, he was an injury prone mess.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:08 AM   #186
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If he were getting beat solely because I technique, you'd have a point.

But he was physically overmatched
He does have a full offseason to be in the Chiefs workouts in the weight program this year. I expect a big change in both technique and physicality this fall, regardless of which side he plays on.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:25 AM   #187
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What else do we have to judge him on?

Up to this point, he hasn't even been a replacement level player. Not that that can't change, but in his first year, he was an injury prone mess.
Our entire draft class was an injury prone mess, which sucks because only Knile Davis was injury prone in college.
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He does have a full offseason to be in the Chiefs workouts in the weight program this year. I expect a big change in both technique and physicality this fall, regardless of which side he plays on.
This is the biggest complaint though. We took a guy first overall who wasn't physically able to play at a high level. If it were just a technique thing, you could more easily move past it and look easier.

I think he's got high upside and I'm glad they took him over the others, but there are some pretty big question marks there.
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This is the biggest complaint though. We took a guy first overall who wasn't physically able to play at a high level. If it were just a technique thing, you could more easily move past it and look easier.

I think he's got high upside and I'm glad they took him over the others, but there are some pretty big question marks there.
I could be wrong, but didn't Dorsey and Reid both say Joekel was more NFL ready but Fisher had the higher ceiling in the long run?
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I could be wrong, but didn't Dorsey and Reid both say Joekel was more NFL ready but Fisher had the higher ceiling in the long run?
Yeah.

But I'd imagine he was a little less physical than they thought.

Essentially, we drafted a guy first overall who we hope becomes a good player after spending a year in the weight room. That's not very impressive
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Yeah.

But I'd imagine he was a little less physical than they thought.

Essentially, we drafted a guy first overall who we hope becomes a good player after spending a year in the weight room. That's not very impressive


He does need to shine this season though! If not, then I agree.
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All the potential WRs that the Chiefs should look at are mentioned here:


USC wide receiver Marqise Lee visiting Jets Sunday and Monday


The Jets will begin a busy week of pre-draft visits by hosting a few of the top wide receivers that could be available when the Jets select at No. 18 next month.
The Daily News has learned that USCís Marqise Lee will be visiting the Jets Sunday night and Monday.
The News reported last month that high-level Jets personnel held private meetings with Lee before and after his Pro Day in Los Angeles. Lee won the 2012 Biletnikoff Award with a breakout season (1,721 yards, 14 TDs) as a junior before nagging leg injuries led to 791 yards and 4 TDs last season. The 6-0, 195-pound Lee has the run-after-the catch skill set to help replace the void left by Santonio Holmesí departure.
The News has learned that the Jets will also host other targets this week with the hope of landing a cornerstone player that can be a true No. 1 threat in the league. LSUís Odell Beckham, Jr., will be visiting Monday night and Tuesday. Oregon Stateís Brandin Cooks is also scheduled to come to Florham Park this week.
Texas A&M wideout Mike Evans, regarded as the second best player at his position in the draft, is also visiting Monday. The Jets, however, would have to trade up to have a realistic chance at drafting Evans, who is expected to be a Top 10 pick.
Beckhamís college teammate Jarvis Landry, who is on the Jetsí radar as a possible pick in a later round, is visiting on Monday. Texas Tech tight end Jace Amaro is also slated to come to town this week.


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Old 04-21-2014, 01:19 PM   #193
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At this point, I really only have three names I want at WR in the first round...

Watkins, Evans, and Matthews. Maaaaaybe Beckham, but I'm starting to think size is more of an issue than I want it to be.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:57 PM   #194
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At this point, I really only have three names I want at WR in the first round...

Watkins, Evans, and Matthews. Maaaaaybe Beckham, but I'm starting to think size is more of an issue than I want it to be.
Beckham's size, or your perceived lack of size with him, isn't an issue. He's got crazy long arms, hands the size of dinner plates and he can jump tall buildings in a single bound.

He's 5'11", 198 lbs., and looks to have plenty of room on his frame.

And he's absolutely sick in terms of route running, high pointing the ball and having pogo sticks for legs to go along with breakaway speed.

That being said, he'll most likely be long gone by the time the Chiefs pick.

However, if you don't think he's the shit after checking out his instagram site, then there may be no hope for you...

http://instagram.com/iam_obj3

I want this dude on the Chiefs something fierce.
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I really like Jared Abbrederis, but **** idk if I would touch this kid until the 4th round.

3 or 4 concussions and a slender frame? That doesn't sound good for a slow white boy, along with only 4 reps on the bench.
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