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2014 NFL Combine - Players - The WRs

Wide Receivers:

Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin
6'1", 195 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Davante Adams, Fresno State
6'1", 212 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9" hands

Odell Beckham, LSU
5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands

Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State
6'5", 240 lb., 34 7/8" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Christopher Boyd, Vanderbilt
6'4", 206 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Philly Brown, Ohio State
5'11", 178 lb., 31 3/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands

John Brown, Pittsburg State
5'11", 179 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 8 1/2" hands

Martavis Bryant, Clemson
6'3 1/2", 211 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Isaiah Burse, Fresno State
5'10", 188 lb., 30 1/4" arms, 8 3/8" hands

Michael Campanaro, Wake Forest
5'9", 192 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Brandon Coleman Rutgers
6'6", 225 lb., 34" arms, 9 1/4" hands

Kain Colter, Northwestern
5'10", 198 lb., 31" arms, 10" hands

Brandin Cooks, Oregon State
5'9 1/2", 189 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Damian Copeland, Louisville
5'11", 184 lb., 31 3/8" arms, 9" hands

Mike Davis, Texas
6'0", 197 lb., 32 3/4" arms, 10" hands

Bruce Ellington, South Carolina
5'9 1/4", 197 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Quincy Enunwa, Nebraska
6'2", 225 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Mike Evans, Texas A&M
6'4 1/2", 231 lb., 35 1/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Shaq Evans, UCLA
6'1", 213 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Bennie Fowler, Michigan State
6'1", 217 lb., 32" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Austin Franklin, New Mexico State
5'11", 189 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10" hands

Jeremy Gallon, Michigan
5'7", 185 lb., 29 1/2" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Ryan Grant, Tulane
6'0", 199 lb., 31" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Matt Hazel, Coastal Carolina
6'1", 198 lb., 31 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands

Robert Herron, Wyoming
5'9", 193 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Cody Hoffman, BYU
6'4", 223 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands

Josh Huff, Oregon
5'11", 206 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Allen Hurns, Miami (FL)
6'1", 198 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/4" hands

Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley State
6'3", 219 lb., 32 1/2" arms, 9" hands

T.J. Jones, Notre Dame
6'0", 188 lb., 30 5/8" arms, 10" hands

Jarvis Landry, LSU
5'11 1/4", 198 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Cody Latimer, Indiana
6'2", 215 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Marqise Lee, USC
5'11 1/2", 192 lb., 31 1/4" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Marcus Lucas, Missouri
6'4", 218 lb., 33 5/8" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
6'3", 212 lb., 33 1/4" arms, 10 3/4" hands

Donte Moncrief, Mississippi
6'2", 221 lb., 32 2/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands

Kevin Norwood, Alabama
6'2", 198 lb., 32 1/8" arms, 10" hands

Walt Powell, Murray State
5'11", 189 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Tevin Reese, Baylor
5'10", 163 lb., 31 5/8" arms, 8 5/8" hands

Paul Richardson, Colorado
6'0", 175 lb., 32 5/8" arms, 8 7/8" hands

Allen Robinson, Penn State
6'2 1/4", 220 lb., 32" arms, 9 1/2" hands

Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma
5'9", 163 lb., 30" arms, 8 7/8" hands

Willie Snead, Ball State
5'11", 195 lb., 31" arms, 10 1/4" hands

Josh Stewart, Oklahoma State
5'10", 178 lb., 30" arms, 9 3/8" hands

Devin Street, Pittsburgh
6'3", 198 lb., 33 2/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands

L'Damian Washington, Missouri
6'4", 195 lb., 33 3/8" arms, 9" hands

Sammy Watkins, Clemson
6'0 1/2", 211 lb., 32" arms, 9 5/8" hands

Albert Wilson, Georgia State
5'9", 202 lb., 30 3/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands


2013 Top WR Drafted & Combine Results:

Tavon Austion, West Virginia
5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands
Bench: 14 reps
40: 4.34 seconds
Vertical: 32.0"
Broad Jump: 120.0"
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds

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Old 04-22-2014, 07:00 PM   #196
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I really like Jared Abbrederis, but **** idk if I would touch this kid until the 4th round.

3 or 4 concussions and a slender frame? That doesn't sound good for a slow white boy, along with only 4 reps on the bench.
He's anything but slow with one of the fastest 3-cones in the draft, but the concussions are a concern. Giving what happened with Ryan Swope, a very similar player, I think it is tough to draft Abbrederis very early.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:15 PM   #197
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@MoveTheSticks: This draft is ridiculously loaded at WR. I'm watching Coastal Carolina WR Matt Hazel... Size/speed/fluid route runner/strong hands.

Here's hoping we get two (2) WR's outta this draft.
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:02 PM   #198
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updated WR speed score with pro day numbers
Moncrief 117.93
Janis 114.75
Enunwa 114.76
Latimer 114.72
Shaq Evans 113.66
DJ Coles 111.71
Martavis Bryant 110.57
Deon Anthony 110.13
Mike Evans 109.71
Sammy Watkins 109.57
Brandin Cooks 107.53
Jordan Mathews 107.16
Brandon Coleman 104.08
Josh Huff 103.2
Odell beckham 102.82
Davante Adams 102.48
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:13 AM   #199
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At this point, I really only have three names I want at WR in the first round...

Watkins, Evans, and Matthews. Maaaaaybe Beckham, but I'm starting to think size is more of an issue than I want it to be.
This. I'm absolutely wary about drafting anyone under 6'1 or 6'2 with a draft this deep in receivers. The CURRENT roster already has a 5'11 receiver who runs a 4.27 and a 6'0 receiver who runs a 4.3... both are completely useless overall in the NFL. Spot "contributors" at best. They need to draft a day 1 starter..
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He didn't suck shit. What he didn't do was meet lofty expectations that he would be a stud day 1, which were far from the norm for NFL lineman. He progressed almost weekly, which was a great sign. He also played injured a lot. I'm excited to see what recovering from surgery in the off season does for him.
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He's anything but slow with one of the fastest 3-cones in the draft, but the concussions are a concern. Giving what happened with Ryan Swope, a very similar player, I think it is tough to draft Abbrederis very early.
He's got a very low vertical as well.

Guys like Abbrederis and BYU's Cody Hoffman (ultra-productive college receivers who lack the explosiveness/burst to be successful as downfield threats at the next level) are going to be very system dependent at the next level.

By looking and bringing in guys like Avery, Jenkins and Sanders, it doesn't appear that a guy like Abbrederis is on the radar of the Chiefs. They look like they want a guy who has burst and is capable of separation. They've already got "horizontal" type receivers in Bowe and Hemingway, and the tight end position plays to this as well.

I would guess that guys like Beckham, Cooks, Ellington, Herron, Huff, and the like are what they may be looking for.
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They've already got "horizontal" type receivers in Bowe and Hemingway, and the tight end position plays to this as well.
Bowe creates vertical seperation, not horizontal. That is likely the case with Hemingway as well though he doesnt appear to create any type of seperation.
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If Latimer surprisingly goes in the 1st, who do you think will take him? My best guess is the 49ers at 30. They have tons of picks and they did take AJ Jenkins a few years ago, whom many considered a late 2nd to 3rd round pick the year that he came out.
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Here's the main reason why I would take Matthews, Allen Robinson, and a few other fringe 1st round WRs over Lee.



He showed the same problem at the combine. It's the real reason why he dropped 12% of his passes last year, not inconsistent QB play.

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If Latimer surprisingly goes in the 1st, who do you think will take him? My best guess is the 49ers at 30. They have tons of picks and they did take AJ Jenkins a few years ago, whom many considered a late 2nd to 3rd round pick the year that he came out.
I'm thinking Carolina, Denver, or San Francisco. I'd think it will be quite late in round 1 if it happens.
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I'll tell you what guys. This Jarvis Landry kid looks like Dwayne Bowe with better hands. IMO he is this years Keenan Allen.

Slow 40 or not I'd still take him. He's got nice game speed. He may not be a burner, but damn is he a great possession guy. He does just about everything well.

Really overshadowed by Odell Beckham Jr.
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I'll tell you what guys. This Jarvis Landry kid looks like Dwayne Bowe with better hands. IMO he is this years Keenan Allen.

Slow 40 or not I'd still take him. He's got nice game speed. He may not be a burner, but damn is he a great possession guy. He does just about everything well.

Really overshadowed by Odell Beckham Jr.
I like Landry too. Just wish he would have tested better. Looks more like a 4.5 guy on tape. If he's there in the 3rd I would take him. He's the best bet to end up being the next Anquan Boldin.
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I'll tell you what guys. This Jarvis Landry kid looks like Dwayne Bowe with better hands. IMO he is this years Keenan Allen.

Slow 40 or not I'd still take him. He's got nice game speed. He may not be a burner, but damn is he a great possession guy. He does just about everything well.

Really overshadowed by Odell Beckham Jr.
We have that guy on the roster.

His name is Junior Hemingway. Except Junior is bigger and faster.
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We have that guy on the roster.

His name is Junior Hemingway. Except Junior is bigger and faster.
I'm no fan of Landry, but, come on, get real.
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I'm no fan of Landry, but, come on, get real.
I understand the "what have you done lately for me" concepts and the "newness" of Landry versus the Hemingway you've seen on the Chiefs roster the past couple of seasons (a guy who's a very good special teams player and produces when he's been inserted into the offense), but Hemingway was no slouch in college. I'd say he was every bit as good as Landry and had/has substantially more upside at the next level.

Hemingway Combine:
6'1", 225 lb.
32 1/2" arms
9 5/8" hands
40: 4.53
Vertical: 35.5"
Broad: 124"
Bench: 21 reps
3 Cone: 6.59 seconds
20 Shuttle: 3.98 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.16 seconds

In his last three years Hemingway averaged 16.8, 18.5 and 20.6 yards per catch.

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Strengths: Hemingway is a talented receiver who might have been hindered throughout his career by not playing with a natural quarterback in Denard Robinson. Playing with him, Hemingway has developed a good field awareness and will be as ready as any rookie to make plays that happen during broken-down opportunities when the quarterback is scrambling. He knows how to exploit defenses and find open holes in the zone, which he did a lot at Michigan. He is reliable to catch the ball in a crowd and is also a threat deep. A very good athlete when the ball is in the air.

Weaknesses: Hemingway is a slow mover off the line and can get jammed up at times. He is a decent route runner but hasn't run many pro-style routes while working in Michigan's offense. He is not a very quick-twitched player and lacks speed variance and explosion in his routes. - NFL.com

Landry Combine:
5'11", 205 lb.
31 3/4" arms
10 1/4" hands
40: 4.77
Vertical: 28.5"
Broad: 110"
Bench: 12 reps

In his three years of college, Landry averaged 10.8, 10.2 and 15.5 yards per catch.

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Strengths: Good balance and body control. Savvy route runner -- uses stems and nods and works back to throws. Confident hands-catcher -- snatches throws off his frame. Extends and high points. Attacks throws and wins "50-50" balls. Makes some spectacular, acrobatic grabs. Good concentration and toughness over the middle. Does not go down without a fight after the catch. Willing blocker. Lined up outside and inside. Likes to compete and it shows. Has special-teams experience covering kicks. Team captain.

Weaknesses: Has a fairly lean frame -- could stand to bulk up and get stronger in order to combat the jam. Lacks elite explosiveness and top-end speed -- does not have an extra gear to take the top off. Average line release, acceleration and suddenness. Could struggle to separate vs. quick-twitch cornerbacks. Large percentage of catches are contested. Lacks ideal height and is not a great leaper. Started just 12 career games. - NFL.com
Personally, I think that Landry is being severely overrated in this draft, especially considering the talent, production and athletic level that's available at the wide receiver position.

And straight up, I'd take Hemingway over Landry regardless right here, right now.
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