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Old 02-22-2014, 11:09 AM  
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Albert may not be done here !

Branden Albert, Chiefs hoping to work out contract0By Chris Wesseling
Around the League Writer

Published: Feb. 22, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.

INDIANAPOLIS -- Despite rampant speculation to the contrary, the Kansas City Chiefs have not decided to let left tackle Branden Albert walk in free agency.

General manager John Dorsey told NFL Media's Steve Wyche on Friday that the Chiefs are still hoping to work out a deal for Albert before free agency begins in March.


Dorsey declined to say if the franchise tag would be an option should the sides fail to reach an accord. Because he was tagged last year, Albert would merit a 120 percent raise on his $9.828 million contract from 2013.

More proof that Albert remains in the team's plans? Dorsey told reporters at the NFL Scouting Combine on Friday that 2013 No. 1 overall draft pick Eric Fisher is still penciled in as a right tackle, not a left tackle.

Albert is one of this year's top 10 free agents. If he's kept off the market, tackle-needy teams such as the Arizona Cardinals will be disappointed.

As for quarterback Alex Smith, Dorsey confirmed to Wyche that an extension is on the agenda, but there is no rush to complete a deal.

Neither Albert nor Smith can be blamed for the Chiefs' late-season collapse. This offense scored 35 points in five of their last seven games, including four games with more than 40 points.
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Old 02-22-2014, 04:14 PM   #61
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The thing is, if Fisher works out they look like geniouses (CP spelling). If they re-sign Albert and Fisher stinks and it's Albert and Stephenson from there on, then we're still screwing ourselves with two big LT contracts and only one serviceable LT.

They already made the gambit when they drafted Fisher. It was a gamble. Go through with it. Don't start backtracking now and panic-pay an aging, average tackle a huge contract. You make the upside play.
Everything checks out except average tackle. He was most definitely an elite tackle in pass protection last year, and this is a passing league now. Yes, subpar in rush, maybe, but he graded out extremely solid in the pivotal area.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:00 PM   #62
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Everything checks out except average tackle. He was most definitely an elite tackle in pass protection last year, and this is a passing league now. Yes, subpar in rush, maybe, but he graded out extremely solid in the pivotal area.
Exactly.

Tons of speculation is getting tossed around about what Albert's camp REALLY wants in terms of dollar figures. We have no clue if he wants a contract that will "break the bank." That might be what the agent wants, but we don't know.

Meanwhile, it's pretty convenient to call Albert an average schlub when getting rid of him will potentially justify a shitty and stupid decision you made with the 1.1 pick last year.

Albert's a good player. He's a good tackle. He's not average. He's solidly good. He's a veteran presence on the line, and he was by far our best offensive lineman on the team last year.

Yes, the contract is the key, but this team does NOT get better by ditching him. At least not in the short term. If he can be kept, then he absolutely should.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:12 PM   #63
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piss off Albert.

you'll get average pay from us; want more? Piss off.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:14 PM   #64
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Exactly.

Tons of speculation is getting tossed around about what Albert's camp REALLY wants in terms of dollar figures. We have no clue if he wants a contract that will "break the bank." That might be what the agent wants, but we don't know.

Meanwhile, it's pretty convenient to call Albert an average schlub when getting rid of him will potentially justify a shitty and stupid decision you made with the 1.1 pick last year.

Albert's a good player. He's a good tackle. He's not average. He's solidly good. He's a veteran presence on the line, and he was by far our best offensive lineman on the team last year.

Yes, the contract is the key, but this team does NOT get better by ditching him. At least not in the short term. If he can be kept, then he absolutely should.
I agree.

But, similarly to our guys who've been paid, he has to play to whatever contract we would potentially give him. If he wants top 5 money, that complicates things a little.

Our big contract guys have to start playing to that contract
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Unless we plan on trying to squeeze a draft pick out of someone with a tag deal, i just don't see it. Our Oline looked very similar with Stephenson and Fisher at OT and you don't pay a guy 10 million per if you have a viable replacement on the roster.

Although if Fisher's shoulder is permanently ****ed it changes things.
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The injury thing is totally fair to throw at Albert, too. But you know what I'm getting sick of?

"BLUHAHARGH Albert commits too many penalties!"

That's a really stupid reason to downgrade a lineman's ability. The number of penalties he commits isn't outrageous or unacceptable at all; it just appears that way because our offense was so ****ing terrible for the first 10 games of the season. You know who used to get called for holding all the ****ing time? Brian Waters. Nobody remembers because the offense usually converted the first down anyway. When things are going great, you don't reach for stupid shit like an average number of penalties as a reason to not re-new somebody's contract.

I'm not saying Albert shouldn't be let go if his contract demands are such that we can't afford him. But people are going to choose to look at him as not a great player or a good player, and for many posters not even an average player. They're going to choose to think of him as a shitty player and point to garbage like "BUGH! HE FALSE STARTED A FEW TIMES! THAT KILLS DRIVES!"

Know what else kills drives? A RT who doesn't know his ass from a cloud of dust that his DE just left behind on his way to sacking your QB.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:46 PM   #67
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I think signing Albert and trading him is out of the question. Most new contract come with a signing bonus which would accelerate onto this yr of the chiefs cap in such a situation.

Albert's agent probably already knows what teams are willing to pay him. That is probably why his representatives are at the combine during unofficial "tampering" time. No team is going to trade for him when they can just buy him during FA.
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I think signing Albert and trading him is out of the question. Most new contract come with a signing bonus which would accelerate onto this yr of the chiefs cap in such a situation.

Albert's agent probably already knows what teams are willing to pay him. That is probably why his representatives are at the combine during unofficial "tampering" time. No team is going to trade for him when they can just buy him during FA.
Why would albert agree to this? He can just negotiate directly with whoever he wants.
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Why would albert agree to this? He can just negotiate directly with whoever he wants.
thats exactly my point, yet there are posts in this thread suggesting that the chiefs are going to sign and trade him.
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thats exactly my point, yet there are posts in this thread suggesting that the chiefs are going to sign and trade him.
I know. Silly stuff.
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thats exactly my point, yet there are posts in this thread suggesting that the chiefs are going to sign and trade him.
Who said that? I will wish AIDS on them.
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They may be wanting to get him signed , then trade him.
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Unless we plan on trying to squeeze a draft pick out of someone with a tag deal, i just don't see it.
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Unless we plan on trying to squeeze a draft pick out of someone with a tag deal, i just don't see it. Our Oline looked very similar with Stephenson and Fisher at OT and you don't pay a guy 10 million per if you have a viable replacement on the roster.

Although if Fisher's shoulder is permanently ****ed it changes things.
I think we would be just as good , or close, with Stephenson replacing, but what happens when we have an injury. we need to keep Albert and Stephenson for depth.
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The thing is, if Fisher works out they look like geniouses (CP spelling). If they re-sign Albert and Fisher stinks and it's Albert and Stephenson from there on, then we're still screwing ourselves with two big LT contracts and only one serviceable LT.

They already made the gambit when they drafted Fisher. It was a gamble. Go through with it. Don't start backtracking now and panic-pay an aging, average tackle a huge contract. You make the upside play.
When and why did we get two big left tackles and big left tackle contracts?
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