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Old 02-24-2014, 07:06 PM  
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KISS cancels their performance at Rock N Roll HOF induction over lineup dispute

While they've been members of rock n' roll royalty for decades now, KISS will not be performing at their official inauguration: at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

The decision to remain soundless that day results from a inner-band dispute over the original and newer band members.

Former lead guitarist Ace Frehley broke the news to the late-night disc jockeys on Q104.3's Eddie Trunk Rocks of the line-up in an effort to prevent fans from purchasing tickets to the event hopeful they may witness the original band perform, Blabbermouth reported.


The last time I was on [this radio show], it was a very exciting and happy call. And the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame was very excited about having the four original members who are being inducted to perform at the ceremony. And that was shot down by Paul and Gene,' Frehley explained to Q104.3 on Friday.

"I'm not gonna get on the stage with Tommy wearing my makeup. That's absurd," Frehley elaborated during the call, asserting Stanley and Simmons were the ones who did not want to perform with the original line-up.

In a statement posted on his website, former percussionist Peter Criss revealed to fans that both he and Frehley were not offered a performance alongside Simmons and Stanley .
'I wanted to make sure that fans understood that no original performance, in or out of makeup, has been offered to us,' Criss elaborated in his official statement.


This is disgraceful and I feel bad for the fans who were looking forward to the four of us being inducted together,' the percussionist finished.

In stark contrast to these claims the band's official website released their own statement to share their side of the story.

'Although KISS has moved forward far longer without them, Ace and Peter are at the very foundation of what we have built and this would all be impossible had they not been a part of it in the beginning,' the statement read.


The statement asserts they never denied a performance with two of the band's original members.

'Contrary to claims made through the media we have never refused to play with Ace and Peter,' the statement firmly delivered. 'To bring this to a quick end, we have decided not to play in any line-up and we will focus our attention on celebrating our induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.'

Womanizing Gene Simmons spoke with Rolling Stone this past December and parlayed his thoughts on the situation in the best way he knew how: with a metaphor on women.
'It's like, if you introduced me to your wife and I go, "Wait, where are all the other wives?" It's like, "Yeah, I was married to them and now I'm here,"' the bassist comically explained.
The 29th annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will take place at the Barclay's Center in New York City on April 10.


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Old 02-25-2014, 05:23 PM   #91
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I guess if you like listening to SHIT like Cryin, Amazing, I don't wanna miss a thing and Love in an elevator. Not for me. Never really liked Aerosmith. Even their old stuff like Back in the Saddle or Dream On i didn't care for.

The only decent song IMO was Sweet Emotion and even that got played the **** out.
I liked them OK back in the 70s, but at this point, I'm with you.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:43 PM   #92
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You're a moron. Sorry.
Using that lame cliche makes you look like one. Sorry.

Seriously how the hell do you know what would have happened had there never been a Kiss? It doesn't take a genius to think up a gimmick like painting your faces to gain distinction.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:12 PM   #93
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KISS certainly influenced a lot of Glam Metal bands, Pantera, Weezer, Iced Earth, and others.

The thrash metal sound of the early and mid 80s was a blend of punk and the new wave of British heavy metal. Basically, the bands liked the attitude of punk but actually wanted to play their instruments well.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:13 PM   #94
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Using that lame cliche makes you look like one. Sorry.

Seriously how the hell do you know what would have happened had there never been a Kiss? It doesn't take a genius to think up a gimmick like painting your faces to gain distinction.
They just stole it from alice cooper.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:26 PM   #95
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I'm not saying modern bands aren't influenced, I'm saying it's absurd to say there would have never been a band like Slipknot if Kiss never existed, or metal would have never existed if it weren't for Black Sabbath. They're pioneers but someone else would have come along had they never hit it big.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:04 PM   #96
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KISS certainly influenced a lot of Glam Metal bands, Pantera, Weezer, Iced Earth, and others.

The thrash metal sound of the early and mid 80s was a blend of punk and the new wave of British heavy metal. Basically, the bands liked the attitude of punk but actually wanted to play their instruments well.
You are talking about Pantera before Anselmo joined when they were glam. Nobody remembers Metal Magic, Projects In the Jungle or Power Metal. Pantera truly became the groove metal band during Cowboys that everyone knows about. Pantera evolved and was later influenced more by Anthrax and Metallica among others.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:13 PM   #97
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I'm not saying modern bands aren't influenced, I'm saying it's absurd to say there would have never been a band like Slipknot if Kiss never existed, or metal would have never existed if it weren't for Black Sabbath. They're pioneers but someone else would have come along had they never hit it big.
All true. But a band like sabbath developed a lot of their sound accidentally, so who knows how long it would have taken for someone else to do it.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:29 PM   #98
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KISS certainly influenced a lot of Glam Metal bands, Pantera, Weezer, Iced Earth, and others.

The thrash metal sound of the early and mid 80s was a blend of punk and the new wave of British heavy metal. Basically, the bands liked the attitude of punk but actually wanted to play their instruments well.
Dimebag was a true KISS lover though.
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They just stole it from alice cooper.
Actually, they stole it from Arthur Brown.

That is probably where Alice Cooper got it from as well.
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That is probably where Alice Cooper got it from as well.
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:50 AM   #102
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Who got it from Arthur Brown, as Gloucester said.
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:52 AM   #103
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Using that lame cliche makes you look like one. Sorry.

Seriously how the hell do you know what would have happened had there never been a Kiss? It doesn't take a genius to think up a gimmick like painting your faces to gain distinction.
It's not a lame cliche when the BANDS THEMSELVES say it.

Lars Ulrich says there wouldn't be a Metallica without Diamond Head. And Brian Tatler says there wouldn't be a Diamond Head without Black Sabbath.

So are you going to say that your favorite musicians are lame too?

It's called historical context. Of course, somebody else COULD have come up with it. But somebody else didn't, KISS DID.

And if you talk to musicians, they'll tell you.

Stop acting like you're better than everybody else, it makes you look dumb.
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Im not acting like Im better than anyone.

Maybe specific bands would sound differently had they not been influenced but metal would have come along eventually without Sabbath, and bands would have painted their faces/wore masks eventually without Kiss. If you dont think so you're very naive.
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Im not acting like Im better than anyone.

Maybe specific bands would sound differently had they not been influenced but metal would have come along eventually without Sabbath, and bands would have painted their faces/wore masks eventually without Kiss. If you dont think so you're very naive.
It doesn't matter if I think so or not. The simple fact is Sabbath did happen, and pretty much every metal band that has come along since has cited them as a influence. That's a fact, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
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