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Old 02-24-2014, 10:32 PM  
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DraftPlanet is not closed.

Draft discussion is now encouraged in the Lounge. This format has been followed in the past and fell by the wayside.

We've had a discussion within this thread and reached a partial compromise. I don't know exactly what it looks like but I have a general idea of what I think would be positive for ChiefsPlanet. I'm looking to regular participants in DraftPlanet and The Lounge to help fill in the blanks with their own cool ideas.

The following is not yet etched in stone. There's a lot of pertinent discussion throughout the thread.
DraftPlanet will remain open until one week after the Combine. Draft gurus will be encouraged to start and/or ask for threads to be moved to the Lounge. We want to encourage football discussion in the Lounge and we hope Draftnits will seek to share their knowledge with the GenPop. Finally, DraftPlanet will remain open year around but new threads will be moderated by Draft moderators and moved to the Lounge or kept in DraftPlanet based on a yet-to-be determined criteria which is up for discussion.

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Old 02-25-2014, 12:01 AM   #106
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Three things:

1. I really hate this idea, period.
That's okay. You're allowed. You're used to the way it used to work. Nobody likes change. We're looking to improve quality of life in the Lounge. You can help with that. Don't bitch about people not caring about the draft. Educate casual users on the draft.
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2. If you're going to close the forum, you might as well nuke it rather than juke threads between forums based on whatever arbitrary criteria we cook up, but please move all DraftPlanet threads to the main forum, since I do enjoy looking up threads from a couple years ago to see how my predictions turned out.
That's why there should be discussion about the arbitrary criteria. Heavyweight draftnik stuff should stay in DraftPlanet. Something a little lighter or with a broad interest should go to the Lounge? I don't know a perfect solution. This is why it has yet to be determined.

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3. The absolute best thing ChiefsPlanet does is the CP Mock. That needs to be stickied in the Lounge. Again, it is the best thing this forum does.
Not a problem. We can do that.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:02 AM   #107
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Oh man

Draft Planet is the only place I feel important on here. Even if it's all in my head.

Can we just turn the lounge into draft planet until the draft? Stickies and important Direckshun threads?

Lastly, how does one apply to be a sub forum mod?
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:06 AM   #108
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Oh man

Draft Planet is the only place I feel important on here. Even if it's all in my head.

Can we just turn the lounge into draft planet until the draft? Stickies and important Direckshun threads?

Lastly, how does one apply to be a sub forum mod?
You have to kiss Direcshun's ass entirely.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:06 AM   #109
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How about this criteria:

Mock drafts (full 32 team mocks), Mock draft games, general college players discussions, stay in Draft planet.

Chiefs specific mock off-seasons and threads specifically about prospects directly linked to Chiefs as potential picks, get moved to the Lounge. That seem fair?

That means people who would be really inconvenienced (the Mock Draft game players, current Combine thread posters, etc.) will be able to keep their stuff away from the clutter in the Lounge.

More football talk will end up in the Lounge due to Derick's hundreds of Chief Mock off-seasons and off-season mocks that other people put up for discussion plus the threads that directly relate to prospects whom we think the Chiefs are really interested in.

I think that seems fair.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:07 AM   #110
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I'm kinda on board with keeping Draftplanet as is.

Less clutter, and something to be said for the discriminating eye purposely seeking out that specific information versus getting caught up in the main board off topic crossfire.

The subforum isn't tough to access and if one is complaining about broadening the discussion, the inverse is if one is missing stuff only posted in DP, then maybe they're not that Big of a draft enthusiast anyway. Behavior dictates if you can't be bothered to click into DP, you're probably not doing a lot of scouring the web about the Draft and quality insights or analysis outside CP.

DP serves a good function of cutting through some of the excess bullshit and fluff of simple click thru mainboard worthless replies. (like this one)
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That's why there should be discussion about the arbitrary criteria. Heavyweight draftnik stuff should stay in DraftPlanet. Something a little lighter or with a broad interest should go to the Lounge? I don't know a perfect solution. This is why it has yet to be determined.
I see no reason why threads about the backup punter from Division IV Biteme University can't also go into the Lounge.

If we're looking to make ChiefsPlanet a football forum, well, then make it a football forum. Not football forum lite.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:11 AM   #112
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I see no reason why threads about the backup punter from Division IV Biteme University can't also go into the Lounge.

If we're looking to make ChiefsPlanet a football forum, well, then make it a football forum. Not football forum lite.
This works too.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:11 AM   #113
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I'm kinda on board with keeping Draftplanet as is.

Less clutter, and something to be said for the discriminating eye purposely seeking out that specific information versus getting caught up in the main board off topic crossfire.

The subforum isn't tough to access and if one is complaining about broadening the discussion, the inverse is if one is missing stuff only posted in DP, then maybe they're not that Big of a draft enthusiast anyway. Behavior dictates if you can't be bothered to click into DP, you're probably not doing a lot of scouring the web about the Draft and quality insights or analysis outside CP.

DP serves a good function of cutting through some of the excess bullshit and fluff of simple click thru mainboard worthless replies. (like this one)
I understand why you like it. I designed it for that functionality. But I perceive our needs have expanded. I'm not looking to squash all the fun entirely, just let some of it flow into the Lounge. Working from that premise, discuss.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:13 AM   #114
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I see no reason why threads about the backup punter from Division IV Biteme University can't also go into the Lounge.

If we're looking to make ChiefsPlanet a football forum, well, then make it a football forum. Not football forum lite.
When the thread about the backup punter from Division IV Biteme University flies off of the front page because only 3 people want to talk about it, you'll be complaining about that. My idea was an attempt to compromise by keeping Draft Planet relatively free of light interest posters, while keeping the Lounge relatively free of what most posters would consider to be picayune draft threads and still encouraging a wider discussion of the more significant draft topics.
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:14 AM   #115
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How about this criteria:

Mock drafts (full 32 team mocks), Mock draft games, general college players discussions, stay in Draft planet.

Chiefs specific mock off-seasons and threads specifically about prospects directly linked to Chiefs as potential picks, get moved to the Lounge. That seem fair?

That means people who would be really inconvenienced (the Mock Draft game players, current Combine thread posters, etc.) will be able to keep their stuff away from the clutter in the Lounge.

More football talk will end up in the Lounge due to Derick's hundreds of Chief Mock off-seasons and off-season mocks that other people put up for discussion plus the threads that directly relate to prospects whom we think the Chiefs are really interested in.

I think that seems fair.
Good start. I presume most casual followers are most interested in your rounds 1 & 2 prospects - maybe an occasional list of sleeper picks, especially from area colleges. With that in mind, how can you whet the palate of Lounge followers while keeping Draftniks happy?
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:14 AM   #116
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What's frustrating is that there is typically high level conversation in a lot of those threads, which many have come to appreciate.

If it moves to the lounge, it's going to water it down heavily, and dissolve into name calling and ignorant posters shitting all over intelligent takes....

It's nice in DP because while it is a more refined convo, it's not exclusive and anyone can hop in and join in should they want. By being in the lounge , I fear it'll get crowded with douche (people trolling). How about letting thread starters boot worthless trolls on those threads, should it move to the lounge?
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:15 AM   #117
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When the thread about the backup punter from Division IV Biteme University flies off of the front page because only 3 people want to talk about it, you'll be complaining about that. My idea was an attempt to compromise by keeping Draft Planet relatively free of light interest posters, while keeping the Lounge relatively free of what most posters would consider to be picayune draft threads and still encouraging a wider discussion of the more significant draft topics.
Yes, yes, yes. You and I are on the same page exactly.
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I'm kinda on board with keeping Draftplanet as is.

Less clutter, and something to be said for the discriminating eye purposely seeking out that specific information versus getting caught up in the main board off topic crossfire.

The subforum isn't tough to access and if one is complaining about broadening the discussion, the inverse is if one is missing stuff only posted in DP, then maybe they're not that Big of a draft enthusiast anyway. Behavior dictates if you can't be bothered to click into DP, you're probably not doing a lot of scouring the web about the Draft and quality insights or analysis outside CP.

DP serves a good function of cutting through some of the excess bullshit and fluff of simple click thru mainboard worthless replies. (like this one)
Stated way better than my post.

All of this.
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What's frustrating is that there is typically high level conversation in a lot of those threads, which many have come to appreciate.

If it moves to the lounge, it's going to water it down heavily, and dissolve into name calling and ignorant posters shitting all over intelligent takes....

It's nice in DP because while it is a more refined convo, it's not exclusive and anyone can hop in and join in should they want. By being in the lounge , I fear it'll get crowded with douche (people trolling). How about letting thread starters boot worthless trolls on those threads, should it move to the lounge?
Like tk said...See now you are acting like you are above other people and that's what will bring the trolling. Just like the day of the draftmasturbators.
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