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Old 02-25-2014, 12:17 PM  
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With The 23rd Selection In The 2014 Draft The Chiefs Select...

Odell Beckham Jr.

GREAT hands, route running, speed, athleticism...the total package. Percy Harvin 2.0 without the concussion issues. If he is left at pick #23 this guy would add tremendously to our offense. Prototypical Andy Reid WR. 6'0" 200 lbs 4.4 speed. Playmaker and difference maker. I could live with Watkins, Evans, Lee or Beckham....Beckham most likely to still be on board and might be the best fit anyway.

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Old 02-25-2014, 01:53 PM   #16
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i'd be ok with that

If we can get a FS in FA it would free us up to be more aggressive about getting the best combo of TE/WR possible in the draft.
This.
An outstanding TE would greatly impact this offense quickly. IMO, more than another good WR would. I'd still like to add both now.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:05 PM   #17
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Even if Kelce ends up being a beast, having two stud TE's would be great so I'd be ok with that.

Trading down to pick up a 2nd would be optimal because of the depth of this draft class. Finding a team willing to forsake their 2nd would be difficult because of the depth of this draft class. But who knows, someone falls a bit, a team falls in love with a player, especially if they're already championship-caliber.

If we stay put at #23, while I'd be fine with a beast TE or Beckham/Lee, I actually see more value investing a first rounder in a pass rusher (like Dee Ford), an elite safety (Pryor/Clinton-Dix), or someone on the line who can be disruptive (Hageman, Tuitt, Jernigan).
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:10 PM   #18
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We're probably not going to trade down. It's a deep draft, which lessons the impetus for teams to trade up.

That said, Beckham's a homerun if we land him. I'm fearing he's going to be gone by the time we're up.

Jace Amaro and Brandin Cooks will almost certainly be on the board. Either one of them are also home runs.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:11 PM   #19
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:13 PM   #20
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Odell Beckham Jr.

GREAT hands, route running, speed, athleticism...the total package. Percy Harvin 2.0 without the concussion issues. If he is left at pick #23 this guy would add tremendously to our offense. Prototypical Andy Reid WR. 6'0" 200 lbs 4.4 speed. Playmaker and difference maker. I could live with Watkins, Evans, Lee or Beckham....Beckham most likely to still be on board and might be the best fit anyway.

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can he play OT?
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:22 PM   #21
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This place is going to be pissed as usual if we draft DL or OL like I am afraid Dorsey will.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:30 PM   #22
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The best is if we can trade down and add another second or third.

That's like getting another first in this class.
I agree with that, it would depend on the pick.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:34 PM   #23
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This place is going to be pissed as usual if we draft DL or OL like I am afraid Dorsey will.
what proof do you have that Dorsey will draft OLine?

the green bay packers have drafted Oline in the 1st round twice in the last decade

just get over it
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:36 PM   #24
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It's entirely possible Dorsey goes with an elite talent at DE, like Hageman or Tuitt.

It's also worth nothing that he used his 1st rounder last year to draft an heir to a likely-departing veteran.

He could very well draft CB or OLB if the value's there to eventually replace either (or both) of our starting CBs or Hali.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:53 PM   #25
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(a.) Assuming the following players are off the board:

QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
QB Blake Bortles, UCF
QB Johnny Manziel. Texas A&M
QB Derek Carr, Fresno State
WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson
WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
WR Odell Beckham, Jr., LSU
TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina
OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
OT Greg Robinson, Auburn
OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan
DT/DE Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
DE Kony Ealy, Missouri
OLB Khalil Mack,Buffalo
OLB Anthony Barr,UCLA
CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
S HaHa Clinton-Dix, Alabama


(b.) And assuming no game-changing FAs are added, and of the departing FAs, we only retain Schwartz.

Here's a comprehensive list right now of who I'd take at 23, in order, as of now:

1. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State -- elite speed and great route-runner; true deep threat on the outside.
2. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech -- peerless route-runner at the TE position
3. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State -- great in man coverage, would take over as starter in 2015
4. OLB Dee Ford, Auburn -- undersized, but with elite passrushing potential
5. DE Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame -- project with elite athleticism at 3-4 DE position
6. NT Louis Nix, Notre Dame -- if Poe to DE is a serious option, and Nix lasts, this is worth considering
7. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington -- project w/ huge size to be elite in future seasons
8. S Calvin Pryor, Louisville -- will need work in coverage, but great at eating up space

I bolded the players I'd heavily consider taking over everybody on this list, who have a remote chance to last.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:58 PM   #26
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I like him there if Ebron is not available
Ebron's a wet dream.

He's the perfect Dorsey selection, but he's probably gone in the Top 15.
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(a.) Assuming the following players are off the board:

QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
QB Blake Bortles, UCF
QB Johnny Manziel. Texas A&M
QB Derek Carr, Fresno State
WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson
WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
WR Odell Beckham, Jr., LSU
TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina
OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
OT Greg Robinson, Auburn
OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan
DT/DE Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
DE Kony Ealy, Missouri
OLB Khalil Mack,Buffalo
OLB Anthony Barr,UCLA
CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
S HaHa Clinton-Dix, Alabama


(b.) And assuming no game-changing FAs are added, and of the departing FAs, we only retain Schwartz.

Here's a comprehensive list right now of who I'd take at 23, in order, as of now:

1. WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State -- elite speed and great route-runner; true deep threat on the outside.
2. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech -- peerless route-runner at the TE position
3. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State -- great in man coverage, would take over as starter in 2015
4. OLB Dee Ford, Auburn -- undersized, but with elite passrushing potential
5. DE Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame -- project with elite athleticism at 3-4 DE position
6. NT Louis Nix, Notre Dame -- if Poe to DE is a serious option, and Nix lasts, this is worth considering
7. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington -- project w/ huge size to be elite in future seasons
8. S Calvin Pryor, Louisville -- will need work in coverage, but great at eating up space

I bolded the players I'd heavily consider taking over everybody on this list, who have a remote chance to last.
Donald and Nix are going before Hageman.
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Old 02-25-2014, 04:20 PM   #29
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what proof do you have that Dorsey will draft OLine?

the green bay packers have drafted Oline in the 1st round twice in the last decade

just get over it
The same proof anyone else has for what Dorsey might do.

Yeah that is right only twice, but they were in back to back years. Even though they had Chad Clifton and Bryan Bulaga, the previous years 1st rd draft pick, starting at the OT spots he drafted Derrok Sherrod OT.
When Albert leaves our OT is Fisher and Stephenson and then no one. I would not be surprised if Dorsey did not want to trust Alex Smiths blind side to Stephonson or Fisher especially without a quality backup.
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Ebron's a wet dream.

He's the perfect Dorsey selection, but he's probably gone in the Top 15.
He might not go that high, who knows. Everyone I knew thought that Eifert was going in the top 15 the year he came out and he lasted until pick 21. He has nearly the same measurables as Ebron but had better hands and is a bit taller/longer. The draft wasn't particularly strong offensively in 2013 either. Ebron does have a chance of getting to us at 23 especially with the strength of this year's receiving class.
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