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Obots doing God's Work. Lefty religion haters heads explode

President Obama on Tuesday told his young supporters they’re doing “God’s work” and urged them to help him raise the minimum wageand boost enrollment in his health care reform law.

“The work you are doing is God’s work,” Obama said at the National Organizing Summit, hosted by Organizing for Action, the nonprofit group formed from the remnants of Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign that has helped promote his policies and played a key role in signing up consumers for Obamacare.

“I could not be prouder of the work you’ve done to help Americans get covered,” said Obama.

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The corruption of the science of Human Embryology

By C. Ward Kischer Ph.D.

I am a scientist, a human embryologist. I have spent a career in a "publish or perish" profession using a great deal of that time writing grants, hoping to get some funded to keep a research program going, as well as teaching, mostly medical students. But in 1989 I came to the conclusion that the science of Human Embryology was being rewritten according to political correctness. It was then that I decided to try to correct the revisions.

Abortion, partial birth abortion, in-vitro fertilization, human fetal research, human embryo research, cloning and stem cell research are all core issues of Human Embryology. Yet, in all of the Supreme Court cases since 1973 and at all of the Congressional hearings on these issues, no human embryologist has been called as a witness and no reference to Human Embryology has ever been made. Further, among the NIH Human Embryo Research Advisory Panel, the National Bioethics Advisory Commission, and President Bush's Council on Bioethics, no human embryologist was appointed as a member, nor called as a witness.

[Here the political corruption of science begins:]
Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in the Roe v Wade decision: "we need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins." Blackmun smeared the distinction between the biological (or embryological) meaning with the legal meaning, and conflated the two into his declaration. His inference was that he was talking about biological life without specifically stating so.

From this source followed a science of Human Embryology that has been parsed and perverted, revised and redefined, changed and corrupted. In fact, the transcripts of President Bush's Council on Bioethics clearly show how extreme the adulteration of the science of Human Embryology has become.

The media have especially ignored Human Embryology in their many articles on the core issues. The media have preferentially published a distortion of this science while totally ignoring the many references available for factual information. The impact of this on public policy has been staggering.

Every one of the core issues identified above is ultimately distilled down to the question of "When Does Human Life Begin?"

The answer is there in the textbooks of Human Embryology, that "human life" begins at fertilization, or conception, which is the same as fertilization. It has always been there, at least for 100 years. Yet, this simple fact, without referencing Human Embryology, has been parsed and corrupted into questioning whether life even exists at that time, and to redefining "conception" to mean "implantation," just to give two examples.

Every human embryologist, worldwide, states that the life of the new individual human being begins at fertilization (conception). Yet, never does one see in the media, nor in the Councils identified above, such a reference, even though it is there in virtually every textbook. We exist as a continuum of human life, which begins at fertilization and continues until death, whenever that may be.

Every Human Embryology textbook, and every human embryologist, not only identifies the continuum of human life, but describes it in detail; which is to say:

At any point in time, during the continuum of life, there exists a whole, integrated human being! This is because over time from the one-celled embryo to a 100-year-old senior, all of the characteristics of life change, albeit at different rates at different times: size, form, content, function, appearance, etc. Actually, the terminology of Human Embryology is important only in the taxonomic sense. It enables human embryologists to talk to one another. This terminology does not compromise nor change the continuum of human life. ...

https://www.all.org/abac/aq0203.htm
I'll await the discrediting of the source by Fish and not the science.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:16 PM   #48
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http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/ar...yoquotes2.html

Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:

"Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]

The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]

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Old 02-27-2014, 12:17 PM   #49
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Well, now you have some of them under that princeton link. Seems you're still at the evolutionary level of a fish still.
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Well, now you have some of them under that princeton link. Seems you're still at the evolutionary level of a fish still.
You might want to take another run at that~
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American Bio-Ethics Advisory Committee

The corruption of the science of Human Embryology

By C. Ward Kischer Ph.D.

I am a scientist, a human embryologist. I have spent a career in a "publish or perish" profession using a great deal of that time writing grants, hoping to get some funded to keep a research program going, as well as teaching, mostly medical students. But in 1989 I came to the conclusion that the science of Human Embryology was being rewritten according to political correctness. It was then that I decided to try to correct the revisions.

Abortion, partial birth abortion, in-vitro fertilization, human fetal research, human embryo research, cloning and stem cell research are all core issues of Human Embryology. Yet, in all of the Supreme Court cases since 1973 and at all of the Congressional hearings on these issues, no human embryologist has been called as a witness and no reference to Human Embryology has ever been made. Further, among the NIH Human Embryo Research Advisory Panel, the National Bioethics Advisory Commission, and President Bush's Council on Bioethics, no human embryologist was appointed as a member, nor called as a witness.

[Here the political corruption of science begins:]
Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in the Roe v Wade decision: "we need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins." Blackmun smeared the distinction between the biological (or embryological) meaning with the legal meaning, and conflated the two into his declaration. His inference was that he was talking about biological life without specifically stating so.

From this source followed a science of Human Embryology that has been parsed and perverted, revised and redefined, changed and corrupted. In fact, the transcripts of President Bush's Council on Bioethics clearly show how extreme the adulteration of the science of Human Embryology has become.

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Every one of the core issues identified above is ultimately distilled down to the question of "When Does Human Life Begin?"

The answer is there in the textbooks of Human Embryology, that "human life" begins at fertilization, or conception, which is the same as fertilization. It has always been there, at least for 100 years. Yet, this simple fact, without referencing Human Embryology, has been parsed and corrupted into questioning whether life even exists at that time, and to redefining "conception" to mean "implantation," just to give two examples.

Every human embryologist, worldwide, states that the life of the new individual human being begins at fertilization (conception). Yet, never does one see in the media, nor in the Councils identified above, such a reference, even though it is there in virtually every textbook. We exist as a continuum of human life, which begins at fertilization and continues until death, whenever that may be.

Every Human Embryology textbook, and every human embryologist, not only identifies the continuum of human life, but describes it in detail; which is to say:

At any point in time, during the continuum of life, there exists a whole, integrated human being! This is because over time from the one-celled embryo to a 100-year-old senior, all of the characteristics of life change, albeit at different rates at different times: size, form, content, function, appearance, etc. Actually, the terminology of Human Embryology is important only in the taxonomic sense. It enables human embryologists to talk to one another. This terminology does not compromise nor change the continuum of human life. ...

https://www.all.org/abac/aq0203.htm
I'll await the discrediting of the source by Fish and not the science.
So this person speaks for every embryologist worldwide? Interesting...

You realize who the ALL is right? They're a pro-life organization. And also the same group who claimed Aladdin, The Lion King, and the Little Mermaid were telling kids to be gay and have sex, and other insane things.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv.../flionking.htm

They even made it on Snopes! http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/aladdin.asp
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http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/ar...yoquotes2.html

Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:

"Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]

The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]

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Note that this is saying "Development" begins. Which is not what we're talking about.
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But, but...that would be anecdotal! He can't do that. It wouldn't be science.
Let it be known that BEP thinks observing the color of grass is a form of anecdotal evidence. Based on this evidence, I hypothesize she has no idea what anecdotal evidence is and what role observations play in science.
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DNA is not a human. Neither is a DNA link. Humans share "DNA links" with chimps, chickens, and bananas.

20 week old unborns do not feel pain. The required thalamocortical connections aren't in place yet, and won't be until the 3rd trimester. Here's actual scientific evidence of that: http://www.ncbi..nih.gov/pubmed/16118385
That's why there's a child alive that was born at 22 weeks and even science says that she's human. Bringing up a match of garbage DNA with primates shows how weak your argument is. I realize that your Lord and saviour is Barrak Hussein Obama and he thinks children are a punishment and these ass clowns are doing "his work".
Just think, when you learn that you are wrong, Global Warming will have seemed like great weather.
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Let it be known that BEP thinks observing the color of grass is a form of anecdotal evidence. Based on this evidence, I hypothesize she has no idea what anecdotal evidence is and what role observations play in science.
You should expand your hypothesis to "she has no idea about anything other than being a bigot".
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That's why there's a child alive that was born at 22 weeks and even science says that she's human. Bringing up a match of garbage DNA with primates shows how weak your argument is. I realize that your Lord and saviour is Barrak Hussein Obama and he thinks children are a punishment and these ass clowns are doing "his work".
Just think, when you learn that you are wrong, Global Warming will have seemed like great weather.
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That's why there's a child alive that was born at 22 weeks and even science says that she's human. Bringing up a match of garbage DNA with primates shows how weak your argument is. I realize that your Lord and saviour is Barrak Hussein Obama and he thinks children are a punishment and these ass clowns are doing "his work".
Just think, when you learn that you are wrong, Global Warming will have seemed like great weather.
Does this mean you've given up trying to answer the dumbest question in the history of CP then?
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