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Old 02-27-2014, 10:23 AM  
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:21 PM   #31
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When congressmen disagree it is generally fairly respectful. I don't recall this kind of intraparty animosity before.
It's a turning point in the party; there has been way too many R's acting like D's for too many years and they're being called out. The old guard doesn't like it, therein the squabbles. I see it as good for the party because the old guard was becoming quite useless. Question that worries me is what kind of a country are we going to have left by the time we sweep these RINO's out of office.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:27 PM   #32
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My church is full of young adults, and we aren't going anywhere. If anything it has made us more dedicated to reaching out to those in our own age group.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:31 PM   #33
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:58 PM   #34
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the millennials are, BY FAR, more liberal than any other generation was when they were the same age, and its a bigger generation than even the boomers. I think we'll end up going farther left as a country than even what FDR managed to take it.
Many of them are libertarian or lean libertarian, as opposed to old-style progressivism aka social democrats.

They're not liking how Obamacare is structured though. That hurts the progressive left leaners more than the libertarian ones.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:00 PM   #35
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As the millenials get closer to thirty, it's more likely they'll have abandoned progressive ideals--especially when they're still out of work.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:12 PM   #36
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Per my reading, many of the 1960's radicals moved into the right or voted for Reagan later. Not all of them, but enough of them. Not the Clintons or Ayers--but Jerry Rubin became a successful businessman. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Rubin0

So millennials can and will change.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...ative-20110912
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:43 PM   #37
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My church is full of young adults, and we aren't going anywhere. If anything it has made us more dedicated to reaching out to those in our own age group.
Following bronze age mythologies is a dwindling group thankfully. Cling on to it and I sincerely hope it brings you happiness. I am however just as optimistic you are among a fading sector of our population~
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:57 PM   #38
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:01 PM   #39
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Bronze age mythology. You like to insult people and then sincerely hope they find happiness in what you've just insulted them about? You're quite the genuine fellow, aren't you?
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:06 PM   #40
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I was raised a Catholic and switched to non denominational Christianity in college. I am straight.

One thing that has stuck with me throughout my life as a Christian is that I am not to judge people. I am not the condemner. Aren't we taught to love and not hate? If someone is gay then who am I to judge? Let them live their lives and let them be happy. Isn't it God who is the judge? I personally don't believe that someone that lives a good life of giving and helping others would be kept out of Heaven based on his or her sexual preference.

People that hate in the name of God is giving religion a bad name and doing it against their own religious beliefs. They are committing a far greater sin IMO than what or who they are hating.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:16 PM   #41
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the millennials are, BY FAR, more liberal than any other generation was when they were the same age, and its a bigger generation than even the boomers. I think we'll end up going farther left as a country than even what FDR managed to take it.
We'll crash and burn long before that happens...
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:17 PM   #42
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I've disagreed with the Rs. But they started going crazy during Clinton, turned it up a notch to defend Bush and Iraq, and went off the charts with Obama. At this point, you have Rs in Congress calling other Rs in Congress crazy.
Obama went off the charts. It's funny that to you, only one side did so.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:18 PM   #43
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I was raised a Catholic and switched to non denominational Christianity in college. I am straight.

One thing that has stuck with me throughout my life as a Christian is that I am not to judge people. I am not the condemner. Aren't we taught to love and not hate? If someone is gay then who am I to judge? Let them live their lives and let them be happy. Isn't it God who is the judge? I personally don't believe that someone that lives a good life of giving and helping others would be kept out of Heaven based on his or her sexual preference.

People that hate in the name of God is giving religion a bad name and doing it against their own religious beliefs. They are committing a far greater sin IMO than what or who they are hating.
Wrong.

Sin is sin. No sin is greater than another.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:23 PM   #44
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Wrong.

Sin is sin. No sin is greater than another.
Short Sighted.

There are 2 common beliefs that are both supported in the bible.
1. Some sins are greater than others.
2. All sins are equal.

Matthew 12:31-32 (NIV)

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

John 19:11 (NIV)

Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”

And

James 2:10 (NIV)

For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Romans 3:23 (NIV)

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

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Mark 3:28-29 (ESV)
28 "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"—

1 John 5:16-18 (ESV)
16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.
18We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.

I could go on.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:40 PM   #45
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Short Sighted.

There are 2 common beliefs that are both supported in the bible.
1. Some sins are greater than others.
2. All sins are equal.

Matthew 12:31-32 (NIV)

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come

John 19:11 (NIV)

Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”

And

James 2:10 (NIV)

For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Romans 3:23 (NIV)

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

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Mark 3:28-29 (ESV)
28 "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"—

1 John 5:16-18 (ESV)
16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.
18We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.

I could go on.
Congratulations. You picked out several verses detailing the consequences of blasphemy.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say "People that hate in the name of God is giving religion a bad name and doing it against their own religious beliefs. They are committing a far greater sin IMO than what or who they are hating."

You're wrong. Sorry.
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