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Old 03-01-2014, 11:13 PM  
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Palin Mocked in 2008 for Warning Putin May Invade Ukraine if Obama Elected

Palin Mocked in 2008 for Warning Putin May Invade Ukraine if Obama Elected


During the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin warned that if Senator Barack Obama were elected president, his "indecision" and "moral equivalence" may encourage Russia's Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine.

Palin said then:

"After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next."

For those comments, she was mocked by the high-brow Foreign Policy magazine and its editor Blake Hounshell, who now is one of the editors of Politico magazine.

In light of recent events in Ukraine and concerns that Russia is getting its troops ready to cross the border into the neighboring nation, nobody seems to be laughing at or dismissing those comments now.

Hounshell wrote then that Palin's comments were "strange" and "this is an extremely far-fetched scenario."

"And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel," Hounshell dismissively wrote.

Palin made her remarks on the stump after Obama's running mate Joe Biden warned Obama supporters to "gird your loins" if Obama is elected because international leaders may test or try to take advantage of him.


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Old 03-02-2014, 11:04 AM   #31
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Come on dude – let's get back on topic that Obama is a big pussy and that's all that matters. Either that or he's the next Hitler – whatever. The narrative never has to be logically consistent from one second to the next. Go Team!


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Old 03-02-2014, 11:07 AM   #32
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Come on dude – let's get back on topic that Obama is a big pussy and that's all that matters. Either that or he's the next Hitler – whatever. The narrative never has to be logically consistent from one second to the next. Go Team!
Pretty much the Obama Admin. in a nutshell, ain't it?
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:29 AM   #33
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Obama's just gonna talk to them. That's how international crises are solved.
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:59 AM   #34
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Yet, Russia got involved in Ossetia when Bush was in power, and our govt complained about that too. Does anyone think?
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:00 PM   #35
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Obama's just gonna talk to them. That's how international crises are solved.
The way Reagan talked to Gorby! Nixon went to China!
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:31 PM   #36
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:47 PM   #37
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Crimeans extremely upset over their Russian overlords.







Clearly this is a hostile invasion and not Russia protecting it's ports and a small population that is primarily or historically has sided with Russia.
Do you know the actual recent history of Crimea? The historical population of Tatars and Greeks along with Armenians and Bulgarians were exiled by Stalin with some 46+% of the Tatars dying within a couple years of forced relocation. Stalin then opened up the land for native Russians to settle. It was only at the end of the Soviet period where these native populations were allowed to move back.

So now some 60% of Crimea is Russian with the rest being Tatar, Greek, and Ukrainian. Of course they are going to welcome the Russian army to protect them.
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:55 PM   #38
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Yet, Russia got involved in Ossetia when Bush was in power, and our govt complained about that too. Does anyone think?
Even BEP understands who was president at the time.


Ukraine is Obama's fault! Because 2008!
/Palin and the brain-dead CP idiots
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:03 PM   #39
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Do you know the actual recent history of Crimea? The historical population of Tatars and Greeks along with Armenians and Bulgarians were exiled by Stalin with some 46+% of the Tatars dying within a couple years of forced relocation. Stalin then opened up the land for native Russians to settle. It was only at the end of the Soviet period where these native populations were allowed to move back.

So now some 60% of Crimea is Russian with the rest being Tatar, Greek, and Ukrainian. Of course they are going to welcome the Russian army to protect them.
Russia has been systematically killing/deporting Tatars since the mid 1800s. Acting as if Russia has a legitimate claim to Crimea is ridiculous.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:14 PM   #40
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Even BEP understands who was president at the time.


Ukraine is Obama's fault! Because 2008!
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Cosmo right on cue to tell us all how it's Bush's fault!!!

Dude you're being a jackass. Everyone knows Bush was President and that has NOTHING to do with the point. The point is that Palin said if Senator Obama became Pres... his lack of spine over the Georgia invasion would result in Russia seeing a weak opponent that wouldn't stop them from doing the same thing in Ukraine.

The comparison was not Bush vs Obama it was MCCAIN vs Obama.. you know that whole election thing?

Here is what Lieberman said at the time...

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"And if you read the statements from the beginning, Senator McCain and Senator Obama, one had kind of moral neutrality to it, that comes I think from inexperience. The other, Senator McCain, was strong and clear and principled and put America where America always wants to be."
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:20 PM   #41
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Cosmo right on cue to tell us all how it's Bush's fault!!!

Dude you're being a jackass. Everyone knows Bush was President and that has NOTHING to do with the point. The point is that Palin said if Senator Obama became Pres... his lack of spine over the Georgia invasion would result in Russia seeing a weak opponent that wouldn't stop them from doing the same thing in Ukraine.

The comparison was not Bush vs Obama it was MCCAIN vs Obama.. you know that whole election thing?

Here is what Lieberman said at the time...
That's really what you got out of that--that I'm blaming Bush? (although that at least would make more sense than blaming pre-president Obama)

I'm not saying it's anyone's fault. I'm saying that Palin's statement about Obama's actions while not president was ****ing stupid then and it is even more stupid now to look back on it as if she said something intelligent.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:25 PM   #42
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That's really what you got out of that--that I'm blaming Bush? (although that at least would make more sense than blaming pre-president Obama)

I'm not saying it's anyone's fault. I'm saying that Palin's statement about Obama's actions while not president was ****ing stupid then and it is even more stupid now to look back on it as if she said something intelligent.
I am far from a Palin fan. I agree that she's an idiot but credit where it's due... her statement was correct and it was BASED on a correct assessment of Obama. His reaction to the invasion of Georgia was the same "lead from behind" nonsense that he has demonstrated throughout his Presidency.

You just look petulant to not take this one on the chin.

EDIT: And no I don't think you were blaming Bush, that was a joke. I shoulda used a smiley.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:38 PM   #43
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I am far from a Palin fan. I agree that she's an idiot but credit where it's due... her statement was correct and it was BASED on a correct assessment of Obama. His reaction to the invasion of Georgia was the same "lead from behind" nonsense that he has demonstrated throughout his Presidency.

You just look petulant to not take this one on the chin.

EDIT: And no I don't think you were blaming Bush, that was a joke. I shoulda used a smiley.
The assertion that this wouldn't have happened with a president McCain (because HE'S tough!) is just absurd.

The whole premise of Obama = weak and some other guy = tough is just ridiculous. How are you defining these things? Does using military action mean one is "tough?" Because in the short term, that's really the only thing that is going to have any visible results.

I never considered you part of that crowd, but you sound like one of the Putin-lovers so impressed with the way he operates vs Obama (and ignoring the systems in which they operate).
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:56 PM   #44
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Palin has bigger balls then Putin.
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Old 03-02-2014, 03:00 PM   #45
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I'm surprised anyone on the right still acknowledges Palin. She pretty much is the reason McCain didn't win back in '08.


She's the reason McCain didn't lose by 20 points.
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