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Old 03-02-2014, 12:04 PM  
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United States has a weak and indecisive president

Does anyone take this president seriously?

Graham to Obama: 'Not your strong suit'

Sen. Lindsey Graham said on Sunday that President Barack Obama needs to "stop going on television and trying to threaten thugs and dictators."

"It is not your strong suit. Every time the president goes on national television and threatens Putin or anyone like Putin, everyone’s eyes roll, including mine," the South Carolina Republican said on CNN's "State of the Union."

Addressing the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, Graham said the United States has a "weak and indecisive president that invited aggression."

"President Obama needs to do something," Graham said. "How about this: Suspend Russian membership in the G8 and the G20 at least for a year, starting right now and every day they stay in Crimea after the suspension. Do something.”

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Old 03-02-2014, 04:56 PM   #31
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Fairplay, how can you take this stand when you are against the NWO? This is just part of that globalism. Graham is one of the worst globalist NeoCons. He's a rabid war monger. I can't rely on him for FP.

Just because I post an article it doesn't mean I'm a fan of them. Graham needs to go like most of them. I think we should stay out of Russia's back yard myself, I just laugh at the Commander in Chief being the joke on Int affairs.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:57 PM   #32
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Well if our president is weak then most of the American people must be too. The isolationist trend, for lack of a better word, has grown since 2003. You will need the backing of the American people if we do more than we should.

"Some on our side are so stuck in the Cold War era that they want to tweak Russia all the time, and I don't think that is a good idea." - Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.)
The American people aren't making empty threats to Putin they have power to act on, but indecisively choose not to. Regardless of whether you agree with isolationism or not, this is the critical issue with Obama here. Don't make warnings or empty threats if you're not going to act on them.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:58 PM   #33
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Sorry, I meant as an exporter.
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55% of its exports go to the EU, including 88% of Russia's total oil exports, 70% of its gas exports and 50% of its coal exports. The export of raw materials to the EU represents around 40% of the Russian budget, and the EU represents 80% of cumulative foreign investments in Russia.
oh and energy represents 65% of the entire Russian economy.

Like I have said before.. Russia needs the EU far far far far more than the EU needs them. Especially as shale production ramps up everywhere.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:59 PM   #34
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:03 PM   #35
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oh and energy represents 65% of the entire Russian economy.

Like I have said before.. Russia needs the EU far far far far more than the EU needs them. Especially as shale production ramps up everywhere.
Which is why he seized Crimea. He wants to ensure those flows aren't disrupted. Crimea is where a lot of Europe's grains come from. To prevent their recoveries from falling due to quick and unexpected food inflation, Europe will not be in a rush to do anything rash.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:16 PM   #36
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oh and energy represents 65% of the entire Russian economy.

Like I have said before.. Russia needs the EU far far far far more than the EU needs them. Especially as shale production ramps up everywhere.
You may be correct that Russia needs the EU more (which is why I stated Putin isn't in a good position either) but the EU absolutely needs that energy esp how fragile their economies are right now. The EU is trying to diversify away from Russian dependence but so is Russia (ramping up China trade)
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:22 PM   #37
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Which is why he seized Crimea. He wants to ensure those flows aren't disrupted. Crimea is where a lot of Europe's grains come from. To prevent their recoveries from falling due to quick and unexpected food inflation, Europe will not be in a rush to do anything rash.
You're Prison Bitch Junior today! Yes Crimea is on a grain export route .. and so is Odessa and a number of other areas. The idea that the Russians have some sort of stranglehold on Europe by holding Crimea is laughable. It is a massive benefit to Russia to hold Crimea .. it is not however a major loss for Europe that they do.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:26 PM   #38
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You're Prison Bitch Junior today! Yes Crimea is on a grain export route .. and so is Odessa and a number of other areas. The idea that the Russians have some sort of stranglehold on Europe by holding Crimea is laughable. It is a massive benefit to Russia to hold Crimea .. it is not however a major loss for Europe that they do.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:38 PM   #39
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Ah, yes, the "I'm an expert on everything AC is surfacing now".
Not an expert just not piss ignorant. I happen to know that Odessa is the largest port in Ukraine. Not exactly something you need to be an expert to know. If being more knowledgeable than you qualifies as an expert than yes, you are right. I'm a ****ing expert.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:44 PM   #40
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Not an expert just not piss ignorant. I happen to know that Odessa is the largest port in Ukraine. Not exactly something you need to be an expert to know. If being more knowledgeable than you qualifies as an expert than yes, you are right. I'm a ****ing expert.

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Old 03-02-2014, 05:54 PM   #41
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Of course Cosmo disappears when someone asks him a question he can't answer. What a chump.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:57 PM   #42
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Crimea is where a lot of Europe's grains come from.
Are you really this ignorant? Wait. Yes. You really are that ****ing dumb.
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:18 PM   #43
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Of course Cosmo disappears when someone asks him a question he can't answer. What a chump.
Sorry, have other stuff to do occasionally. Plus there's several threads dealing with the same thing. So, what was neglected question?
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Sorry, have other stuff to do occasionally. Plus there's several threads dealing with the same thing. So, what was neglected question?
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:21 PM   #45
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I did comment on this in another thread where it was mentioned, so .
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