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Old 03-02-2014, 04:19 PM  
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U.S. pushing Israel to stop assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-pushi...ar-scientists/

WASHINGTON -- As Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flies to Washington - due to arrive on Sunday (March 2), to prepare for talks with President Barack Obama at the White House on Monday - it's clear that there are several points of friction between Israel and the United States.

The two countries are allies, but their leaders often differ on the details of key issues: Israel's peace talks with the Palestinians, America's nuclear talks with Iran, how to approach political turmoil in Egypt, what might be done to limit Syria's horrible civil war, and a broader issue of whether the Middle East sees President Obama as a powerful, influential leader.

Recently, as I sought to update a book I co-wrote about the history of Israel's intelligence agencies, sources close to them revealed that they felt pressure from the Obama Administration - more than a hint - to stop carrying out assassinations inside Iran.

Although Israel has never acknowledged it, the country's famed espionage agency - the Mossad - ran an assassination campaign for several years aimed at Iran's top nuclear scientists. The purpose was to slow the progress made by Iran, which Israel feels certain is aimed at developing nuclear weapons; and to deter trained and educated Iranians from joining their country's nuclear program.

At least five Iranian scientists were murdered, most of them by bombs planted on their cars as they drove to work in the morning. Remarkably, the Israeli assassins were never caught - obviously having long-established safe houses inside Iran - although several Iranians who may have helped the Mossad were arrested and executed.

In addition to strong signals from the Obama Administration that the U.S. did not want Israel to continue the assassinations, Mossad officials concluded that the campaign had gotten too dangerous. They did not want their best combatants - Israel's term for its most talented and experienced spies - captured and hanged.

President Obama - much to the discomfort of Israeli officials - is pursuing negotiations with Iran. The United States is one of the P5+1 nations, continuing to talk with the Iranians about rolling back some of their nuclear potential.

Sources told us that Netanyahu has now ordered the Mossad to focus on hunting - inside Iran and elsewhere - for evidence that the Iranians are cheating on the commitments they made in their interim agreement with the P5+1 last November.

Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Obama will also discuss progress - said by all concerned to be limited, but not non-existent - in Israel's talks with the Palestinian Authority which began last year. Secretary of State John Kerry has had many frustrations in his chosen role as mediator: not least, the harsh criticism of Kerry voiced by some members of Netanyahu's coalition government who distrust the peace process and feel that giving up any of the West Bank would be needlessly dangerous for Israel.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:47 PM   #16
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WASHINGTON -- As Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flies to Washington - due to arrive on Sunday (March 2), to prepare for talks with President Barack Obama at the White House on Monday - it's clear that there are several points of friction between Israel and the United States.

The two countries are allies, but their leaders often differ on the details of key issues: Israel's peace talks with the Palestinians, America's nuclear talks with Iran, how to approach political turmoil in Egypt, what might be done to limit Syria's horrible civil war, and a broader issue of whether the Middle East sees President Obama as a powerful, influential leader.

Recently, as I sought to update a book I co-wrote about the history of Israel's intelligence agencies, sources close to them revealed that they felt pressure from the Obama Administration - more than a hint - to stop carrying out assassinations inside Iran.

Although Israel has never acknowledged it, the country's famed espionage agency - the Mossad - ran an assassination campaign for several years aimed at Iran's top nuclear scientists. The purpose was to slow the progress made by Iran, which Israel feels certain is aimed at developing nuclear weapons; and to deter trained and educated Iranians from joining their country's nuclear program.

At least five Iranian scientists were murdered, most of them by bombs planted on their cars as they drove to work in the morning. Remarkably, the Israeli assassins were never caught - obviously having long-established safe houses inside Iran - although several Iranians who may have helped the Mossad were arrested and executed.

In addition to strong signals from the Obama Administration that the U.S. did not want Israel to continue the assassinations, Mossad officials concluded that the campaign had gotten too dangerous. They did not want their best combatants - Israel's term for its most talented and experienced spies - captured and hanged.

President Obama - much to the discomfort of Israeli officials - is pursuing negotiations with Iran. The United States is one of the P5+1 nations, continuing to talk with the Iranians about rolling back some of their nuclear potential.

Sources told us that Netanyahu has now ordered the Mossad to focus on hunting - inside Iran and elsewhere - for evidence that the Iranians are cheating on the commitments they made in their interim agreement with the P5+1 last November.

Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Obama will also discuss progress - said by all concerned to be limited, but not non-existent - in Israel's talks with the Palestinian Authority which began last year. Secretary of State John Kerry has had many frustrations in his chosen role as mediator: not least, the harsh criticism of Kerry voiced by some members of Netanyahu's coalition government who distrust the peace process and feel that giving up any of the West Bank would be needlessly dangerous for Israel.
Well. Didn't see that one coming.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:47 PM   #17
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:49 PM   #18
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Not at all since we tell Israel, our 51st state what to do all the time as it can't survive without our economic aid. Besides, the fact that we've been inside Iran working with them during joint covert activities...as well as hiring MEK. We're partners with them already. So it's one and the same. You ought to know that being a British imperialist.
This has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Why do you care if Israel is killing Iranian nuclear scientists? It doesn't affect us at all.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:50 PM   #19
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Nice to see Obama speaking out against terrorism. I just thought we don't negotiate with any.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:51 PM   #20
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. NOPE! We claim Israel as our ally all the time. This is what allies do, especially during war. They get each other to cooperate when they're in the same game to coordinate strategy.


EPIC FAIL.
Oh my God. Are you listening to yourself? Didn't Donger bring up "allies" to you in the other thread?

I am not sure whether you're delusional, incapable of grasping the simplest arguments or what. Either way, you're blowing my mind.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:53 PM   #21
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Oh my God. Are you listening to yourself? Didn't Donger bring up "allies" to you in the other thread?

I am not sure whether you're delusional, incapable of grasping the simplest arguments or what. Either way, you're blowing my mind.
Reading BEP posts are exactly like driving past a brutal car crash - you can't help but to slow down and gawk at the carnage.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:54 PM   #22
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MEK fighters have been secretly trained by the US in recent years and is now being employed by Israel to conduct acts of terrorism inside Iran. To US officials in Washington though, any group that happens to oppose their enemy, Iran, are freedom fighters.

The MEK has received years of praise and advocacy from elite members in American politics, from former Governor of Pennsylvania Ed Rendell to former UN Ambassador John Bolton to former Governor of Vermont Howard Dean and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. These types of people collected payments from the MEK for their advocacy to get the group removed from the State Deparment’s [terrorist] list, which amounts to “material support” for terrorist groups, a felony.

Embarrassingly, Gingrich railed against the Iranian regime for the Iranian hostage crisis, where hundreds of US citizens were taken hostage at the Iranian embassy following the 1979 revolution, not knowing that the State Department says the MEK participated in it. The MEK is also said to have praised the 9/11 attacks when they occurred in 2001...

The hypocrisy of pro-MEK shills like Gingrich is stark. It was only a matter of years ago that Gingrich’s own party, making the case for a war in Iraq which he also supported, claimed Saddam’s support for the MEK “terrorist” group justified the US invasion.

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Oh my God. Are you listening to yourself? Didn't Donger bring up "allies" to you in the other thread?

I am not sure whether you're delusional, incapable of grasping the simplest arguments or what. Either way, you're blowing my mind.
No he's probably strawmanning what I say to twist it in order to suit his antagonism. This is a different conflict--our participation in which is also to protect Israel supposedly.

Then again, I stopped reading his posts in that other thread. He's not worth the time. It'd be be wasted.
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Old 03-02-2014, 04:56 PM   #24
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We've been assassination inside that country and yet the allegation continues. So it hasn't worked.
You DO realize that the efforts that we and Israel have allegedly been doing inside to slow their nuclear program most likely have done precisely that, right?

If you do, then you are wrong. It has worked.
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Oh my God. Are you listening to yourself? Didn't Donger bring up "allies" to you in the other thread?

I am not sure whether you're delusional, incapable of grasping the simplest arguments or what. Either way, you're blowing my mind.
Who the f are you calling allies in the Ukraine?The totalitarian and globalist EU?
Just WOW! So Donger supports tyrants, when Europeans want to break away from those who run the EU! They're, along with US globalists, tyrants who are the PROBLEM over there. That was my point--not what you're making it.

Oh and NATO needs to be disbanded. It has outlived it's usage which was for the Cold War and designed to keep Russians out of Europe.

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Shake it up baby. Twist and shout. Ya' know you twist so fine. Come on and twist a little closer!

Well shake it, shake it baby now!
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