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Old 03-03-2014, 02:07 PM  
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Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported

Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported
By Todd Starnes | March 03, 2014 | FoxNews.com


Uwe and Hannelore Romeike came to the United States in 2008 seeking political asylum. They fled their German homeland in the face of religious persecution for homeschooling their children.

They wanted to live in a country where they could raise their children in accordance with their Christian beliefs.

The Romeikes were initially given asylum, but the Obama administration objected – claiming that German laws that outlaw homeschooling do not constitute persecution.

“The goal in Germany is for an open, pluralistic society,” the Justice Department wrote in a legal brief last year. “Teaching tolerance to children of all backgrounds helps to develop the ability to interact as a fully functioning citizen in Germany.”

On Monday, the Supreme Court declined to hear the Romeike’s appeal – paving the way for the Christian family of eight to be deported.

“I think this is a part of the Obama administration’s overall campaign to crush religious freedom in this country,” said Michael Farris, chairman of the Home School Legal Defense Association. His organization is representing family.

“The Obama administration’s attitude toward religious freedom, particularly religious freedom for Christians is shocking,” he told me in an exclusive telephone interview. “I have little doubt that if this family had been of some other faith that the decision would have never been appealed in the first place. They would have let this family stay.”

Had the family stayed in Germany, where homeschooling is illegal, they would have faced the prospect of losing their children. Like the Pilgrims, they fled their homeland yearning for a place where they could be free.

Farris said the religious bias perpetrated by the Obama administration is “palpable.”

“It’s a denial of the essence of America,” he said. “The Pilgrims left England to go to Holland to seek religious freedom. They came here to seek religious freedom and parental rights for their children. Had this administration been waiting at Plymouth Rock, they would’ve told the Pilgrims to go back home.”

There are nearly 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States. You’d think the Obama administration could find a place eight immigrants who want to live here legally.

Farris said the Supreme Court’s decision not to hear the case sends a chilling message to Americans who currently home school their children.

“This administration thinks it’s a privilege to home school – not a right,” he told me. “We’d better buckle down and be ready to fight them every step of the way.”

As for now, the Romeike family will be able to stay at their four-acre farm in the eastern Tennessee. But it’s only a matter of time before the Obama administration begins formal deportation proceedings.

Last year, I interviewed 15-year-old Daniel Romeike, a soft-spoken boy with aspirations of one day becoming a mechanical engineer. He told me he was afraid of what might happen if the family was deported. He feared being taken from his parents and placed in government custody.

“If I had a chance to talk to President Obama, I would ask him to let us stay in this great country of freedom and opportunity,” Daniel told me.

So on behalf of the Romeike family, I would like personally appeal to President Obama.

Please, Mr. President, have mercy on this Christian family. They came to our shores longing to be free. They left their homeland to escape religious persecution. Please, sir. Welcome them to our land with open arms. Bestow upon them a small measure of grace so they might be able to raise their children in the land of the free, the home of the brave.

Please spare these dear souls.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:06 PM   #91
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You think this is an act?

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Old 03-03-2014, 06:08 PM   #92
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You think this is an act?

When Obama jumps, Cosmo asks "how high?"
I think he works for the administration as a volunteer activist to shout down dissent of the current regime. Cochise is his ally though. I wonder if someone took over Cochise's handle.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:17 PM   #93
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Marriage does not fall under Federal law in this country. And marriage is not treated as a right in any of the states. Otherwise, no one would need a license to marry. That, in effect, is needing permission to marry.
The Edmunds anti polygamy act is a federal law regarding marriage. So they can dictate to the states when they feel like it. But I was not making a legal argument with cosmo but pointing out the logic of his take runs along simular lines as opinions that he wouldn't like very much if the subject in question were a gay person instead of a parent wishing to home school their kids.

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Old 03-03-2014, 06:17 PM   #94
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Something tells me there's more to this story. That something is probably that it's reported with an obvious slant by FOX News, and with only one side of the issue reported.

Just a hunch.
Well, this is a commentary and not a news report, so of course there is some opinion therein.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:22 PM   #95
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You think this is an act?

When Obama jumps, Cosmo asks "how high?"

makes no sense
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:24 PM   #96
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I think he works for the administration as a volunteer activist to shout down dissent of the current regime. Cochise is his ally though. I wonder if someone took over Cochise's handle.
Yeah...I think maybe the only thing we might agree on is your unstable mental state.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:29 PM   #97
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The Edmunds anti polygamy act is a federal law regarding marriage.
Yeah, well it's not in the Constitution like many other things.
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So they can dictate to the states when they feel like it.
Just because they do doesn't mean they are allowed per the Constitution.
It's written where they can tell a state what to do and it's not in a lot of places.

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But I was not making a legal argument with cosmo but pointing out the logic of his take runs along simular lines as opinions that he wouldn't like very much if the subject in question were a gay person instead of a patent wishing to home school their kids.
Ok got it.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:34 PM   #98
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On Monday, the Supreme Court declined to hear the Romeike’s appeal – paving the way for the Christian family of eight to be deported.

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Old 03-03-2014, 06:40 PM   #99
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Well, this is a commentary and not a news report, so of course there is some opinion therein.
That would make sense. My experience tells me that with FOX News, it's often difficult to tell the difference, especially when there's no link to the article.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:42 PM   #100
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That would make sense. My experience tells me that with FOX News, it's often difficult to tell the difference, especially when there's no link to the article.
Cochise is not good at putting the link in to show his sources and he is violating copyright law when he omits it. It's not like he does usually, and forgot one or two times either. He's against it. I suspect he's afraid of someone criticizing his source more than just practicing some kind of civil disobedience to copyright law though. I say this because he usually criticizes other people's sources as his sole argument at time. So it likely stems from his own operating basis. Thus he projects.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:47 PM   #101
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Cochise is not good at putting the link in to show his sources and he is violating copyright law when he omits it. It's not like he does usually, and forgot one or two times either. He's against it. I suspect he's afraid of someone criticizing his source more than just practicing some kind of civil disobedience to copyright law though. I say this because he usually criticizes other people's sources as his sole argument at time. So it likely stems from his own operating basis. Thus he projects.
You're not good at law stuff.

Is that in the Constitution?
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:52 PM   #102
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That would make sense. My experience tells me that with FOX News, it's often difficult to tell the difference, especially when there's no link to the article.
If you think I've doctored the article in some way, you're welcome to present your case. The author and agency are listed right at the top.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:52 PM   #103
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I don't see why immigration laws have to totally reject their pathway to a green card or whatever they need to be here legally.

They don't want to live in Germany anymore. So they moved here. Give them the forms to fill out and let it happen. Are the only ways to move to the US through marrying a citizen or being a poor refugee from a shithole country? No other exceptions?
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:55 PM   #104
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I don't see why immigration laws have to totally reject their pathway to a green card or whatever they need to be here legally.
I don't think it does, but they applied for asylum. Their anchor baby will probably save them. Nicely played, Christians.
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Old 03-03-2014, 07:00 PM   #105
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I don't see why immigration laws have to totally reject their pathway to a green card or whatever they need to be here legally.

They don't want to live in Germany anymore. So they moved here. Give them the forms to fill out and let it happen. Are the only ways to move to the US through marrying a citizen or being a poor refugee from a shithole country? No other exceptions?
Actually, this. I don't understand how come they just can't immigrate legally. The asylum bit means they are asking America to take a stand against the German government, and ally of ours. I don't think any president would go along with this.

Sorry. I think Obama sucks and all, but I don't see this as just something the administration is doing to repress religious expression.

I say again, I do think Obama sucks big ol' donkey nuts. But not in this case. Maybe I need to read more about it...
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