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Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported

Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported
By Todd Starnes | March 03, 2014 | FoxNews.com


Uwe and Hannelore Romeike came to the United States in 2008 seeking political asylum. They fled their German homeland in the face of religious persecution for homeschooling their children.

They wanted to live in a country where they could raise their children in accordance with their Christian beliefs.

The Romeikes were initially given asylum, but the Obama administration objected – claiming that German laws that outlaw homeschooling do not constitute persecution.

“The goal in Germany is for an open, pluralistic society,” the Justice Department wrote in a legal brief last year. “Teaching tolerance to children of all backgrounds helps to develop the ability to interact as a fully functioning citizen in Germany.”

On Monday, the Supreme Court declined to hear the Romeike’s appeal – paving the way for the Christian family of eight to be deported.

“I think this is a part of the Obama administration’s overall campaign to crush religious freedom in this country,” said Michael Farris, chairman of the Home School Legal Defense Association. His organization is representing family.

“The Obama administration’s attitude toward religious freedom, particularly religious freedom for Christians is shocking,” he told me in an exclusive telephone interview. “I have little doubt that if this family had been of some other faith that the decision would have never been appealed in the first place. They would have let this family stay.”

Had the family stayed in Germany, where homeschooling is illegal, they would have faced the prospect of losing their children. Like the Pilgrims, they fled their homeland yearning for a place where they could be free.

Farris said the religious bias perpetrated by the Obama administration is “palpable.”

“It’s a denial of the essence of America,” he said. “The Pilgrims left England to go to Holland to seek religious freedom. They came here to seek religious freedom and parental rights for their children. Had this administration been waiting at Plymouth Rock, they would’ve told the Pilgrims to go back home.”

There are nearly 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States. You’d think the Obama administration could find a place eight immigrants who want to live here legally.

Farris said the Supreme Court’s decision not to hear the case sends a chilling message to Americans who currently home school their children.

“This administration thinks it’s a privilege to home school – not a right,” he told me. “We’d better buckle down and be ready to fight them every step of the way.”

As for now, the Romeike family will be able to stay at their four-acre farm in the eastern Tennessee. But it’s only a matter of time before the Obama administration begins formal deportation proceedings.

Last year, I interviewed 15-year-old Daniel Romeike, a soft-spoken boy with aspirations of one day becoming a mechanical engineer. He told me he was afraid of what might happen if the family was deported. He feared being taken from his parents and placed in government custody.

“If I had a chance to talk to President Obama, I would ask him to let us stay in this great country of freedom and opportunity,” Daniel told me.

So on behalf of the Romeike family, I would like personally appeal to President Obama.

Please, Mr. President, have mercy on this Christian family. They came to our shores longing to be free. They left their homeland to escape religious persecution. Please, sir. Welcome them to our land with open arms. Bestow upon them a small measure of grace so they might be able to raise their children in the land of the free, the home of the brave.

Please spare these dear souls.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:05 PM   #106
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To clarify, I didn't post this article because I have a position in their favor on this issue, I just thought it would be interesting to see the denizens of DC bat it around. The thread title is simply the title of the column, not my words.

I don't necessarily agree that homeschooling has nothing to do with free exercise of a sincerely held religious belief. I think that case could be made, although that's not really the question here.

Obviously, these people made a mistake by coming into the country legally. Perhaps they should re-enter the country illegally after they are deported if they wish to be coddled.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:05 PM   #107
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If you think I've doctored the article in some way, you're welcome to present your case. The author and agency are listed right at the top.
I don't, but the fact that it was from the OP/ED section would have been nice to know from the onset. Plus, it's kind of a message board etiquette to post a link to a posted article.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:07 PM   #108
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To clarify, I didn't post this article because I have a position in their favor on this issue, I just thought it would be interesting to see the denizens of DC bat it around. The thread title is simply the title of the column, not my words.

I don't necessarily agree that homeschooling has nothing to do with free exercise of a sincerely held religious belief. I think that case could be made, although that's not really the question here.

Obviously, these people made a mistake by coming into the country legally. Perhaps they should re-enter the country illegally after they are deported if they wish to be coddled.

Wait - you don't have a position? Liar.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:12 PM   #109
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I don't, but the fact that it was from the OP/ED section would have been nice to know from the onset. Plus, it's kind of a message board etiquette to post a link to a posted article.
The byline and the absence of a placeline in the story clearly identify it as editorial content.

If that weren't clear enough, a plain reading of the text should make it obvious to anyone which category it falls in.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:13 PM   #110
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Wait - you don't have a position? Liar.
On whether or not they should be deported? I don't know the ins and outs of the law on that.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:15 PM   #111
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I don't, but the fact that it was from the OP/ED section would have been nice to know from the onset. Plus, it's kind of a message board etiquette to post a link to a posted article.
It's actually more than etiquette. It's a legal point that protects the MB itself.
Some boards stipulate it in their rules, if cutting and pasting a whole article, not just snippets, for protection from copyright suits since all parties can be sued just for allowing it to happen on their property. I've seen people banned for it if they continued for this reason. I used to give talks on copyright for artists at some colleges for designers.
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It's actually more than etiquette. It's a legal point that protects the MB itself.
Some boards stipulate it in their rules, if cutting and pasting a whole article, not just snippets, for protection from copyright suits since all parties can be sued just for allowing it to happen on their property. I've seen people banned for it if they continued for this reason. I used to give talks on copyright for artists at some colleges for designers.
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On whether or not they should be deported? I don't know the ins and outs of the law on that.
Who cares. You know why the admin goes after these people and wants to amnesty millions of others. You know why.
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To clarify, I didn't post this article because I have a position in their favor on this issue, I just thought it would be interesting to see the denizens of DC bat it around. The thread title is simply the title of the column, not my words.

I don't necessarily agree that homeschooling has nothing to do with free exercise of a sincerely held religious belief. I think that case could be made, although that's not really the question here.

Obviously, these people made a mistake by coming into the country legally. Perhaps they should re-enter the country illegally after they are deported if they wish to be coddled.
And change their name to Lopez
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Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported

If they would have just started the immigration process instead of seeking asylum when this all started they would have been happily immigrated by now. Or perhaps all this time they should have been filling out the paperwork if it was allowed.
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I don't see why immigration laws have to totally reject their pathway to a green card or whatever they need to be here legally.

They don't want to live in Germany anymore. So they moved here. Give them the forms to fill out and let it happen. Are the only ways to move to the US through marrying a citizen or being a poor refugee from a shithole country? No other exceptions?
Those are some good points. I would think their lawyers could help them on that. Except, they were to be deported.
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If they would have just started the immigration process instead of seeking asylum when this all started they would have been happily immigrated by now. Or perhaps all this time they should have been filling out the paperwork if it was allowed.
Maybe they can go someplace else first then immigrate here. Mexico does sound like an interim option...but they're tougher on that than we are.

Perhaps, Russia, who might take them to piss off the EU. That'd be awesome!
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