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Old 03-03-2014, 02:07 PM  
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Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported

Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported
By Todd Starnes | March 03, 2014 | FoxNews.com


Uwe and Hannelore Romeike came to the United States in 2008 seeking political asylum. They fled their German homeland in the face of religious persecution for homeschooling their children.

They wanted to live in a country where they could raise their children in accordance with their Christian beliefs.

The Romeikes were initially given asylum, but the Obama administration objected – claiming that German laws that outlaw homeschooling do not constitute persecution.

“The goal in Germany is for an open, pluralistic society,” the Justice Department wrote in a legal brief last year. “Teaching tolerance to children of all backgrounds helps to develop the ability to interact as a fully functioning citizen in Germany.”

On Monday, the Supreme Court declined to hear the Romeike’s appeal – paving the way for the Christian family of eight to be deported.

“I think this is a part of the Obama administration’s overall campaign to crush religious freedom in this country,” said Michael Farris, chairman of the Home School Legal Defense Association. His organization is representing family.

“The Obama administration’s attitude toward religious freedom, particularly religious freedom for Christians is shocking,” he told me in an exclusive telephone interview. “I have little doubt that if this family had been of some other faith that the decision would have never been appealed in the first place. They would have let this family stay.”

Had the family stayed in Germany, where homeschooling is illegal, they would have faced the prospect of losing their children. Like the Pilgrims, they fled their homeland yearning for a place where they could be free.

Farris said the religious bias perpetrated by the Obama administration is “palpable.”

“It’s a denial of the essence of America,” he said. “The Pilgrims left England to go to Holland to seek religious freedom. They came here to seek religious freedom and parental rights for their children. Had this administration been waiting at Plymouth Rock, they would’ve told the Pilgrims to go back home.”

There are nearly 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States. You’d think the Obama administration could find a place eight immigrants who want to live here legally.

Farris said the Supreme Court’s decision not to hear the case sends a chilling message to Americans who currently home school their children.

“This administration thinks it’s a privilege to home school – not a right,” he told me. “We’d better buckle down and be ready to fight them every step of the way.”

As for now, the Romeike family will be able to stay at their four-acre farm in the eastern Tennessee. But it’s only a matter of time before the Obama administration begins formal deportation proceedings.

Last year, I interviewed 15-year-old Daniel Romeike, a soft-spoken boy with aspirations of one day becoming a mechanical engineer. He told me he was afraid of what might happen if the family was deported. He feared being taken from his parents and placed in government custody.

“If I had a chance to talk to President Obama, I would ask him to let us stay in this great country of freedom and opportunity,” Daniel told me.

So on behalf of the Romeike family, I would like personally appeal to President Obama.

Please, Mr. President, have mercy on this Christian family. They came to our shores longing to be free. They left their homeland to escape religious persecution. Please, sir. Welcome them to our land with open arms. Bestow upon them a small measure of grace so they might be able to raise their children in the land of the free, the home of the brave.

Please spare these dear souls.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:45 PM   #121
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I don't know what you're talking about. All I said is that homeschooling is not worthy of asylum protection. They can teach their kids whatever they want at home. And then send them to a state public school or to a private Christian school.

Or, they could easily go to another EU country that allows homeschooling.
They aren't exactly escapees from a North Korean labor camp.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:05 AM   #122
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Argentina seems to be the least restrictive for homeschooling even compared to America. They should go there. They might even meet some families of German descent. Oops! Not as good economically though.

Or Ireland where the right to home education is guaranteed by the Constitution of Ireland. If these guys are Protestants then Ireland is out of the question.

Cripes the list of countries where it's illegal or legal but restricted is astounding. Mostly the socialist and commies countries and/or former. Ya' know places where they like to control what people think extensively. Cosmos' kind of countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homesch...and_statistics


But if they going to be deported--then how can they avoid Germany. They'll have to escape our budding police-state under the cover of dark like the Von Trapp family when the Germans were taking over Austria.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:33 AM   #123
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This thread is full of all kinds of fail. It's funny watching people dance around shit that they've spent their entire CP lives arguing against.

Home Schooling?

We'll turn our backs on Mexicans (and the Majority are also Christian btw)who can barely afford to cloth themselves and live in a damn near 3rd world country but gladly welcome Illegals who fled to America (from Germany of all places...) for.....homeschooling.

I can't believe some of you are seriously arguing over Home Schooling. If that's reason enough for Asylum then we might as well just open the doors and grant Asylum to the entire world as im sure there are a lot of Countries in worse shape than Germany with a ****ing laundry list of reasons they should be granted Asylum. Oh the hypocrisy.

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Fairly dense.. are you Cosmo's offspring? Asexual offspring, of course...

If you bothered to learn and acknowledge anything about the situation, you would know that the Germans continue to enforce the "no home schooling" law today only to indoctrinate and one of the pillars they want to indoctrinate is an anti-religion - particularly Christian - viewpoint. So the moment you say this is over 'home schooling' you're either admitting ignorance of the issue, a liar, or an idiot - pick one, two or hell - all three!

That story you paint about illegals from Mexico is so sweet... Tell ya what - go live on a border town like Laredo for a few years and get back to us. Tell us just what percentage of the border jumpers fits your storybook vs how many come carrying illegal drugs, set up mini-Mexico villages, and parade around a Mexican flag. Watch just how many don't give a shit about being part of the US and instead just want our money, one way or another.

You need to stop learning about the world via what is said on TV or the internet and go out & experience it for yourself.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:40 AM   #124
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Argentina seems to be the least restrictive for homeschooling even compared to America. They should go there. They might even meet some families of German descent. Oops! Not as good economically though.

Or Ireland where the right to home education is guaranteed by the Constitution of Ireland. If these guys are Protestants then Ireland is out of the question.

Cripes the list of countries where it's illegal or legal but restricted is astounding. Mostly the socialist and commies countries and/or former. Ya' know places where they like to control what people think extensively. Cosmos' kind of countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homesch...and_statistics


But if they going to be deported--then how can they avoid Germany. They'll have to escape our budding police-state under the cover of dark like the Von Trapp family when the Germans were taking over Austria.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:38 AM   #126
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Every country must have the same constitutional protections as the US!

Not only that, but if their home country doesn't give them to them, then they should be allowed to move here so they can get them!!


No seriously, this whole thread makes no sense.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:39 AM   #127
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Sorry, overbroad statement I suppose. I dont' view homeschooling as a fundamental right. Let's leave it there. Other areas can get much more murky and I haven't thought about all the other possibilities.
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Progressives, socialists, fascists and commies think it's not a natural right to raise one's children. They are property of the state. See why they says such things. They are of the state, for the state and live by it. They are anti-liberty statists.

yeah, I definitely don't see children as property of the state, and don't think too many Americans, including liberals, would agree with that. Maybe progressives, socialists, fascists and commies in other countries, but your labels are of your own invention, and don't convey much meaning to others.
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That is nonsense. The Constitution is a document based on Natural Law and protects those Natural Rights. This is one of them.

So every single right in the Constitution is a natural right, and anyone anywhere in the world that has their natural rights violated by the government where they live should be allowed to come here and stay under asylum?

I've deleted the rest of your completely unrelated nonsense. Or, to use your lingo -- Deflection!
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In a long line of cases, we have held that, in addition to the specific freedoms protected by the Bill of Rights, the "liberty" specially protected by the Due Process Clause includes the rights . . . to direct the education and upbringing of one's children.

- Washington v. Glucksburg, 521 U.S. 702 (1997)

So in other words this is a Constitutional right that was made up by the Supreme Court, and is not expressly in the Constitution. Therefore, as an original intent, strict constructionist, you disagree that this Constitutional right even exists, but rather it is just a phoney-baloney judge-made right.

Correct? Or, if not, why not?
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In your opinion only--an uninformed one.

BTW if I notice someone trying to work around the ignore filter for someone, I usually ignore them too. You're just lucky I exercised my right and choice to activate "View Post" on a selective basis. I wanted to see what someone posted what you were losing your temper about. Didn't want to miss the meltdown.

You are a liar. Your claiming people are on ignore when they clearly are not is so well-known around here that there is a specific phrase for it which is only ever applied to you. "Fake ignore".

Reason number eleventy billion why you have zero credibility around here, btw.
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I don't see why immigration laws have to totally reject their pathway to a green card or whatever they need to be here legally.

They don't want to live in Germany anymore. So they moved here. Give them the forms to fill out and let it happen. Are the only ways to move to the US through marrying a citizen or being a poor refugee from a shithole country? No other exceptions?

You have no idea how hard it is to live/work here legally. I'm not kidding. Politicians have made it very difficult, and it's damaging our economy. Corporations can't even bring in very talented minds to help their business. It's idiotic.
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Can't believe there are people in this world that think this, incredible.

I overstated that. Ignore it. Limit it to just homeschooling. There is no fundamental human right to homeschooling.
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You have no idea how hard it is to live/work here legally. I'm not kidding. Politicians have made it very difficult, and it's damaging our economy. Corporations can't even bring in very talented minds to help their business. It's idiotic.
Plus you can't apply for immigration if you have applied for asylum.
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Fairly dense.. are you Cosmo's offspring? Asexual offspring, of course...

If you bothered to learn and acknowledge anything about the situation, you would know that the Germans continue to enforce the "no home schooling" law today only to indoctrinate and one of the pillars they want to indoctrinate is an anti-religion - particularly Christian - viewpoint. So the moment you say this is over 'home schooling' you're either admitting ignorance of the issue, a liar, or an idiot - pick one, two or hell - all three!

That story you paint about illegals from Mexico is so sweet... Tell ya what - go live on a border town like Laredo for a few years and get back to us. Tell us just what percentage of the border jumpers fits your storybook vs how many come carrying illegal drugs, set up mini-Mexico villages, and parade around a Mexican flag. Watch just how many don't give a shit about being part of the US and instead just want our money, one way or another.

You need to stop learning about the world via what is said on TV or the internet and go out & experience it for yourself.
They can send them to a private school and teach them what they want at home. Problem solved. Or they could have immigrated here or some other country by the normal process. Problem solved again. I guess the tyranny of being forced to drive well made cars was just too much to overcome.
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