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Old 03-08-2014, 07:13 PM  
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:31 AM   #31
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The prohibition on drugs, government being in the marriage business, the prohibition on gambling, the massive spending on defense, the prohibition on prostitution, etc.
Aside from defense spending, how are those even moderately RW exclusive?
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:34 AM   #32
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Aside from defense spending, how are those even moderately RW exclusive?
They aren't but they are SoCon talking points. The whole tough on crime thing as well.
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:43 AM   #33
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And thank you! No need to go to war. You got snarky with me, and I returned the barb. We disagree on some things clearly. No. Big. Deal.
Actually I intended it as more of a general statement and kind of tongue in cheek, but all's good.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:14 PM   #34
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Really ? What type of conservatism is BS and bad for our country ??
There is a lot of stuff on both sides. Some of the "conservative" BS I have always thought they need to get over is things like gay marriage, legalized marijuana and though I am not asking them to support pro-choice I think from a political perspective arguing abortion is nothing more than a distraction and losing battle at this point.

Now, that being said there is some straight up political BS from the right that makes my skin crawl anymore. I don't want to get into too much detail in this thread but it starts with a lack of backbone and huge helping of cronyism.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:24 PM   #35
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I have noticed it to and have really enjoyed seeing Pete slowly become a liberal over the last few months. Quite a transformation from a few years ago.


I am hardly becoming Liberal although you might be surprised at what I agree with in theory with them. My problem with Libs is they want everyone else to do everything and cry when they have to pony up. That as well as the idiotic, losers they choose for leaders such as Pelosi and Reid. I'd rather have a Kucinich and Sanders than a Reid and Pelosi.

Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, McConnel are all the same.

So what you can say about me is I am tired of the establishment politicians on both sides of the isle.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:34 PM   #36
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The prohibition on drugs, government being in the marriage business, the prohibition on gambling, the massive spending on defense, the prohibition on prostitution, etc.
Okay so you are a RINO junkie who likes to spend $$ on homo prostitutes who likes to gamble on the side but with a weak defense the Muslims will prevent your lifestyle
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:37 PM   #37
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Go read KC Native's thread on CEO pay. That's a damn fine start.


And here is your problem Floppy !!
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:48 PM   #38
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Some of the "conservative" BS I have always thought they need to get over is things like gay marriage, legalized marijuana and though I am not asking them to support pro-choice I think from a political perspective arguing abortion is nothing more than a distraction and losing battle at this point.
Malcom Muggeridge said it best here and has described our current state of our nation IMO. When a nation refuses to acknowledge God and chooses it's own way moral decay and corruption is what occurs and is the eventual downfall of any nation and especially when "LIFE" is NOT HELD SACRED any longer.


“So the final conclusion would surely be that whereas other civilizations have been brought down by attacks of barbarians from without, ours had the unique distinction of training its own destroyers at its own educational institutions, and then providing them with facilities for propagating their destructive ideology far and wide, all at the public expense. Thus did Western Man decide to abolish himself, creating his own boredom out of his own affluence, his own vulnerability out of his own strength, his own impotence out of his own erotomania, himself blowing the trumpet that brought the walls of his own city tumbling down, and having convinced himself that he was too numerous, labored with pill and scalpel and syringe to make himself fewer. Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over--a weary, battered old brontosaurus--and became extinct.”

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Old 03-09-2014, 01:10 PM   #39
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Malcom Muggeridge said it best here and has described our current state of our nation IMO. When a nation refuses to acknowledge God and chooses it's own way moral decay and corruption is what occurs and is the eventual downfall of any nation and especially when "LIFE" is NOT HELD SACRED any longer.


“So the final conclusion would surely be that whereas other civilizations have been brought down by attacks of barbarians from without, ours had the unique distinction of training its own destroyers at its own educational institutions, and then providing them with facilities for propagating their destructive ideology far and wide, all at the public expense. Thus did Western Man decide to abolish himself, creating his own boredom out of his own affluence, his own vulnerability out of his own strength, his own impotence out of his own erotomania, himself blowing the trumpet that brought the walls of his own city tumbling down, and having convinced himself that he was too numerous, labored with pill and scalpel and syringe to make himself fewer. Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over--a weary, battered old brontosaurus--and became extinct.”

― Malcolm Muggeridge, Vintage Muggeridge: Religion and Society
I won't argue that with the decline of "God" in schools as what not the country has taken a turn for the worse, morally speaking. That being said though, you cannot shove it into law without violating the very document the Right claims to champion and accuses the Left of pissing all over.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:29 PM   #40
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I am hardly becoming Liberal although you might be surprised at what I agree with in theory with them. My problem with Libs is they want everyone else to do everything and cry when they have to pony up. That as well as the idiotic, losers they choose for leaders such as Pelosi and Reid. I'd rather have a Kucinich and Sanders than a Reid and Pelosi.

Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, McConnel are all the same.

So what you can say about me is I am tired of the establishment politicians on both sides of the isle.
What does that mean? Examples?
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:54 PM   #41
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What does that mean? Examples?
See, this is the partisan hackery I have vowed to not be a part of. Are you seriously asking me to give you examples of Libs whining? How about the Unions and Obamacare, which they supported, just for starters???
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Old 03-09-2014, 02:57 PM   #42
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Okay so you are a RINO junkie who likes to spend $$ on homo prostitutes who likes to gamble on the side but with a weak defense the Muslims will prevent your lifestyle
I am a libertarian. I have the radical belief that other people are not mine to boss around.

We have two big oceans to protect us from enemies. Our culture is a much better weapon than bombs and guns.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:06 PM   #43
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See, this is the partisan hackery I have vowed to not be a part of. Are you seriously asking me to give you examples of Libs whining? How about the Unions and Obamacare, which they supported, just for starters???
Accuses me of partisan hackery while saying something as vague and meaningless as "My problem with Libs is they want everyone else to do everything and cry when they have to pony up."

No, based on that description, I have no idea WTF you are talking about or referring to.
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Accuses me of partisan hackery while saying something as vague and meaningless as "My problem with Libs is they want everyone else to do everything and cry when they have to pony up."

No, based on that description, I have no idea WTF you are talking about or referring to.
I truly can't figure out if you're strategically obtuse or actually obtuse.

You misread arguments, on and on and on, and when it's finally explained in the simplest of terms, accuse people of lying.

You see a perfectly straightforward statement and berate people because you have no idea what it means.
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Accuses me of partisan hackery while saying something as vague and meaningless as "My problem with Libs is they want everyone else to do everything and cry when they have to pony up."

No, based on that description, I have no idea WTF you are talking about or referring to.

Let's face it, shithead - you are about played out.

It's time for whoever it is that writes your paycheck to shuffle you off to another website and give you a fresh start somewhere else...They can just stick another one of you liberal zombies in to take your place here, just like when they replaced Orange with you...
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