Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-24-2014, 01:52 AM  
tk13 tk13 is offline
...
 
tk13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $18785
Mark Cuban: "The NFL is 10 years away from an implosion."

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...away-implosion

Quote:
Cuban: With TV deal, NFL is 'hoggy'
By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com


DALLAS - Mark Cuban, the outspoken Dallas Mavericks owner, predicts a drastic decline in the popularity of the NFL over the next decade due to the league's greed.

"I think the NFL is 10 years away from an implosion," Cuban said Sunday evening when his pregame conversation with reporters, which covered a broad range of topics, swayed toward football. "I'm just telling you, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. And they're getting hoggy. Just watch. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. When you try to take it too far, people turn the other way.

"I'm just telling you, when you've got a good thing and you get greedy, it always, always, always, always, always turns on you. That's rule number one of business."

Cuban is specifically referring to the NFL expanding their television package. He considers it a poor business decision for the NFL, which consistently dominates TV ratings, to play games on days other than Sunday and Monday.

In February, the NFL announced a one-year deal with CBS and NFL Network partnering to televise Thursday night games. CBS, which won the bidding for the Thursday night package over NBC, ABC, Fox and Turner, will air the games during the first eight weeks of the season, simulcasting them with the NFL Network. The league's cable network will exclusively show six Thursday night games later in the season with CBS' top announcing tandem of Jim Nantz and Phil Simms in the booth. The NFL Network will also have a Saturday doubleheader in Week 16.

The NFL started a limited package of Thursday night games in 2006. The NFL Network showed 13 Thursday night games last season.

"They're trying to take over every night of TV," Cuban said. "Initially, it'll be, 'Yeah, they're the biggest-rating thing that there is.' OK, Thursday, that's great, regardless of whether it impacts [the NBA] during that period when we cross over. Then if it gets Saturday, now you're impacting colleges. Now it's on four days a week. ...

"It's all football. At some point, the people get sick of it."

Cuban said the NFL is making a mistake by valuing television money over the convenience of fans who are used to planning for their NFL teams to play on Sundays with the occasional Monday night game. He compared it to the decline in popularity of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" after the game show expanded to air five days a week.

"They put it on every night," Cuban said. "Not 100 percent analogous, but they handled it the same. I'm just telling you, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered."
Posts: 37,435
tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 04:15 PM   #136
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
Quote:
Originally Posted by blaise View Post
I don't think the knockout punches are what makes boxing worse, anyway. It probably has more to do with the cumulative effect of taking head punches. An MMA fighter may only take 3 to 10 actual head shots a match. A boxer could take dozens. Plus I think boxers generally have longer careers. So hundreds of head punches over time.
Correct.

That's also why head trauma is such a big problem with offensive linemen. It's not the 1 big hit, it's the 30+ little ones they take during the course of every game.
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 04:23 PM   #137
Sannyasi Sannyasi is offline
Veteran
 
Sannyasi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Casino cash: $8239
Wishful thinking on Cuban's part perhaps. I don't watch the Thursday night games because the level of play has been poor, however that fact hasn't impeded my desire to watch the Sunday games at all.
Posts: 1,477
Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Sannyasi has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 04:36 PM   #138
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $16287
Cuban is exaggerating of course. But 40-50 years ago the most popular sports in America were MLB, Boxing and Horse Racing.

Who's to say in another 30 years or so the most popular sports might be MLS, MMA and NHL?
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 50,974
Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 04:46 PM   #139
theelusiveeightrop theelusiveeightrop is online now
Spiraling down the Drain
 
theelusiveeightrop's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Dante's Ninth Circle
Casino cash: $12348
Cuban is 10 minutes away from an implosion at any time.
__________________
"We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family."

2014 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
Posts: 20,335
theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 05:19 PM   #140
Rain Man Rain Man is offline
No known superpowers
 
Rain Man's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: In A World Few See
Casino cash: $12656
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by alnorth View Post
Its more powerful than a mere law. Laws can be changed on a whim.

It is codified into the framework of our culture. The NFL is more inseparable from American culture than most other things. We want football, we won't accept flag football (and no we're not at flag football, the game still pretty much looks the same), and we will put up with death and danger to keep our football. Period.
It may not be up to us. If a judge starts handing out $50 million verdicts to "concussion victims", the business model doesn't work. I'm not saying it'll happen, but if we recognize that the NFL is a business, then businesses only operate when they're profitable.

I agree more with Cuban that the problem is going to be interest more than some catastrophic business change. However, it all ties together to some extent. The business of the NFL is....

...watering down the product to broaden their fan base, for the goal of chasing revenue increases.

...watering down the product to minimize legal risk.

...attempting to minimize the two impacts above by increasing their exposure.

...attempting to create new revenues streams such as TV products (e.g., RedZone and Sunday Ticket).

...attempting to create bigger stories by creating bigger stars via those new TV products.


It all makes sense from an MBA perspective. The thing that worries me is that marketing is driving the process now, and not the product. It's the same problem as any industry - if you have a crappy product with great marketing, people will still eventually figure out that it's a crappy product. And as Mark Cuban suggests, that actually speeds up the decline because you know have a broad awareness that it's a crappy product.
__________________
Chiefs Football - 2014 (and every other year)

Posts: 78,205
Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 07:07 PM   #141
Fat Elvis Fat Elvis is offline
Beard Merit Badge
 
Fat Elvis's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Casino cash: $7745
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower View Post
The NRA and American conservatives have enough clout to maintain the status quo of gun rights in the country.

I'm not so sure the NFL and USA Football (to an extent) can convert their capital wealth into a campaign effective enough to make people shrug off the shocking death of a man playing a game.
You haven't been paying much attention to all the brain injury suicides then and how folks just say, "meh."
__________________

Mr. Irrelevant
Posts: 6,766
Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fat Elvis 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 07:12 PM   #142
KC Tattoo KC Tattoo is offline
SPOT THE PSYCHO
 
KC Tattoo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ks
Casino cash: $12025
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX View Post
Yep. He applied for ownership of the Houston franchise but was denied. He had all the credentials.

Honestly I wish Cuban could buy the Chiefs franchise. I know Cuban would do what ever it takes to bring in a Championship.
Posts: 21,724
KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.KC Tattoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 07:17 PM   #143
rabblerouser rabblerouser is offline
Veteran
 
rabblerouser's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Casino cash: $13154
Hell I'm already almost done. They're pricing me right out of the building, and the on field product has me turning off the TV and turning my attention elsewhere.
__________________
“There ain't no revolution, only evolution...but every time I'm in Georgia, I eat a peach for peace.” - Skydog

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phobia View Post
It was mind boggling watching those guys run out of bounds again and again and again. I still can't believe it.
www.drivingwheelmusic.com
www.reverbnation.com/drivingwheel
www.facebook.com/drivingwheel
Posts: 3,905
rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.rabblerouser wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 07:27 PM   #144
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is online now
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $21944
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabblerouser View Post
Hell I'm already almost done. They're pricing me right out of the building, and the on field product has me turning off the TV and turning my attention elsewhere.
Posts: 20,450
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2014, 09:52 PM   #145
tk13 tk13 is offline
...
 
tk13's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $18785
The NFL responds!

Quote:
Cuban, who is the star of the reality show "Shark Tank," received some blowback from fellow Dallas billionaire Jerry Jones on Monday.

"I respect Mark,'' the Cowboys owner told the Dallas Morning News. "But with all due respect, I know more about pigs than Mark does. I was taught as a Razorback to be lean and mean, not a little fat pig."

Goodell, asked about Cuban's comments at Monday's media conference here, said he wasn't aware of them. He responded anyway.

"Monday Night Football has been around since 1970," Goodell said. "Sunday Night Football has been around since 2006 and so has Thursday Night Football. We've taken, I think in a very incremental and thoughtful approach, how we've taken more games to a national platform. That's been in a large part driven by our fans. The fans want those games."

It's hard to argue against Goodell's point. There seems to be no end to the demand for the NFL. What was once confined largely to 16 weekends, a few weeks of playoffs and the draft is now a year-round drama with its own network. Although there are issues about keeping stadiums filled, those concerns are nothing compared to other pro leagues, including the NBA.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-ans...48462-nfl.html
Posts: 37,435
tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.tk13 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2014, 12:05 AM   #146
chiefsfan987 chiefsfan987 is offline
MVP
 
chiefsfan987's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Casino cash: $7581
I can see that. There was a time where I could watch any nfl game and enjoy it, but it's gotten to the point where the only NFL I watch these days are when the Chiefs play. I don't care about any of the other games, monday night, sunday night etc. I don't watch them unless it's the playoffs.
Posts: 5,432
chiefsfan987 has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2014, 12:11 AM   #147
BigMeatballDave BigMeatballDave is online now
That's a cancerous meatball!
 
BigMeatballDave's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $20612
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo View Post
Honestly I wish Cuban could buy the Chiefs franchise. I know Cuban would do what ever it takes to bring in a Championship.
Horseshit.

SB winning teams win thru the Draft.
Posts: 53,106
BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2014, 12:27 AM   #148
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $15836
Roger Goodell will find a way to ruin the game. One thing at his job he's actually good at.

Spreading the draft out several days. **** you.
Forcing games in London with reckless disregard for homefield advantage and travel disadvantage. **** you.
Spreading out games and ruining football Sundays I spend with buddies? **** you.
Complete monopolization of TV rights such that you have to plant a satellite dish to watch a game at home? **** you.
Signing an exclusive jersey apparel deal that allows the maker to ridiculously jack up the price? **** you.
Ridiculous rules that allow TV companies to change game times at the last minute, flying a middle finger in the face of out-of-town travellers? **** you
Creating ridiculous offensive friendly rules that sell tickets, but now give extraordinary advantage to teams with great QBs? **** you

And the reckless disregard for safety has created the NFL version of MLB's steroid controversy. They were so stupid about this for years that they can't actually enforce rules now without admitting a mistake. Here's a classic example. How is there not a rule to force players to wear a ****ing mouthpiece. Honest to God.

I still love the NFL. But Cuban's got a point.
Posts: 21,471
chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.chiefzilla1501 threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2014, 12:52 AM   #149
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is online now
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $21944
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
Roger Goodell will find a way to ruin the game. One thing at his job he's actually good at.

Spreading the draft out several days. **** you.
Forcing games in London with reckless disregard for homefield advantage and travel disadvantage. **** you.
Spreading out games and ruining football Sundays I spend with buddies? **** you.
Complete monopolization of TV rights such that you have to plant a satellite dish to watch a game at home? **** you.
Signing an exclusive jersey apparel deal that allows the maker to ridiculously jack up the price? **** you.
Ridiculous rules that allow TV companies to change game times at the last minute, flying a middle finger in the face of out-of-town travellers? **** you
Creating ridiculous offensive friendly rules that sell tickets, but now give extraordinary advantage to teams with great QBs? **** you

And the reckless disregard for safety has created the NFL version of MLB's steroid controversy. They were so stupid about this for years that they can't actually enforce rules now without admitting a mistake. Here's a classic example. How is there not a rule to force players to wear a ****ing mouthpiece. Honest to God.

I still love the NFL. But Cuban's got a point.
You know that Goodell does none of these things without the blessing of the owners? And often with the agreement of the players? And that some of these things have nothing to do with him? Your complaint is with the owners.
Posts: 20,450
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2014, 01:16 AM   #150
BigMeatballDave BigMeatballDave is online now
That's a cancerous meatball!
 
BigMeatballDave's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $20612
People need to stop blaming Goodell for these changes.

He does this stuff because the owners want it, too.
Posts: 53,106
BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigMeatballDave is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:41 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.