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Old 03-24-2014, 07:22 PM  
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Critics question the fatal shooting of a homeless camper
Posted: Mar 24, 2014 5:20 PM CDT
Updated: Mar 24, 2014 4:50 PM CDT





New Mexico - Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper.

38-year-old James Boyd argued with police for more three hours last Sunday about illegally camping in open space.

Boyd continued to refuse officer commands and began threatening their lives causing officers to open fire.

Boyd had a violent 20-year criminal history including multiple incidents of violence against officers and years of mental health related concerns.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:18 PM   #121
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I think it's an extremely unfortunate outcome. If this were an example of the cops showing up and immediately taking aggressive action, I would probably feel differently. They were there for three hours and the situation still wasn't resolved.

You don't think that they should have just left, right?
So, how long should the wait be before we decide it's ok to just open fire?
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:20 PM   #122
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I think it's an extremely unfortunate outcome. If this were an example of the cops showing up and immediately taking aggressive action, I would probably feel differently. They were there for three hours and the situation still wasn't resolved.

You don't think that they should have just left, right?
What's the time limit before they can just kill the person instead?
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:21 PM   #123
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:23 PM   #124
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I think it's an extremely unfortunate outcome. If this were an example of the cops showing up and immediately taking aggressive action, I would probably feel differently. They were there for three hours and the situation still wasn't resolved.

You don't think that they should have just left, right?
Honestly I had no idea the police were there for 3 hours. Where did you attain that information from?

I'll be perfectly honest here; I'm looking thru this situation from my glasses. I camp and hike all the time and your kind of 'en guard (sp?) while out in the woods.

If there was a 3 hours standoff than I don't know the whole situation. I'm judging solely by what I saw on the video.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:25 PM   #125
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Let me think about this for a minute. Okay. Failure to obey a lawful order from a cop will cause you to be shot. Got it. Just like the Cop in New Jersey who shot the lady who got out of her car after being told to "stay". Got it. Oh,forget the fact that the lady was 67 years old and hard of hearing. The "cop"? 25 years old.


I have a few words for you....Pepper Spray, Bean Bags, Tasers, Flash Bang, Non lethal wound and, lastly, sending the dog in.

I promise you, I haven't been pulled over in over 40 years. But if I am now, my hands will go on the dash and I will NOT move them. When the cop wants my license and registration, I will TALK him through each movement that I am about to make as I reach SLOWLY for my wallet.

I'll be damned if I become a "statistic". As much as I hate to admit it, I guess it really IS true. The more I hear folks talking about how we are "becoming communist Russia" the more it is starting to make sense.....
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:27 PM   #126
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Honestly I had no idea the police were there for 3 hours. Where did you attain that information from?

I'll be perfectly honest here; I'm looking thru this situation from my glasses. I camp and hike all the time and your kind of 'en guard (sp?) while out in the woods.

If there was a 3 hours standoff than I don't know the whole situation. I'm judging solely by what I saw on the video.
It's in the link in the OP:

New Mexico - Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper.

38-year-old James Boyd argued with police for more three hours last Sunday about illegally camping in open space.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:29 PM   #127
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Just a question....but what happens if they taze the guy....he falls down and smacks his head on the rocks and dies?
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:32 PM   #128
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It's in the link in the OP:

New Mexico - Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper.

38-year-old James Boyd argued with police for more three hours last Sunday about illegally camping in open space.
My bad for only watching the video. I apologize.

I still won't say that he couldn't have been taken down by an arm bar with these trained bad ass guys (LOL) or canine without being shot but it's a better understanding of what escalated.

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:33 PM   #129
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Just a question....but what happens if they taze the guy....he falls down and smacks his head on the rocks and dies?
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:34 PM   #130
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My bad for only watching the video. I apologize.

I still won't say that he couldn't have been taken down by an arm bar with these trained bad ass guys (LOL) or canine without being shot but it's a better understanding of what escalated.

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Old 03-25-2014, 05:22 PM   #131
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So, how long should the wait be before we decide it's ok to just open fire?
They didn't just open fire. After three hours of trying to get him to obey the law, they decided to use flash bangs and a dog. He went for a weapon. They then shot him.
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:23 PM   #132
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What's the time limit before they can just kill the person instead?
I'm going to go ahead and guess three hours.
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:35 PM   #133
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Like this ****ing homeless guy living on a hill in Cali is proficient in the most fictitious method of killing ever portrayed in film. You might as well mention the ****ing ninja stars and katana in his backpack.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:12 PM   #134
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Like it was all just some kickass video game he was playing with a buddy.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:14 PM   #135
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I watched it last night, but don't remember exactly why this guy was being confronted for camping out on public land... is there a law against camping or being homeless?
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