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Old 03-30-2014, 09:57 PM  
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GLOBAL WARMING WILL CAUSE WAR, PESTILENCE, FAMINE AND DEATH, SAYS NEW IPCC REPORT INEVITABLY



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Today sees the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) latest findings on the state of "global warming" and the news isn't good.

Here are some of the highlights:
Giant malarial mosquitoes the size of crane flies may descend en masse and drain us of our blood so quickly with their powerful razor sharp probosces that we won't even have time to be infected - we'll be dead before we hit the floor;

Bangladesh, Tuvalu, The Maldives and Florida will all be submerged;

Four horsemen with skulls for faces, glowing red eyes and huge scythes will gallop across the blighted land on skeletal horses spreading fire, pestilence, famine, and disease. Men will pray for the quick release of death. Children will clutch their parents and say: "Why didn't we listen?";

The populations of horrid things like cockroaches and scorpions will quintuple, while all the cute animals - wrens, robins, meerkats, baby polar bears, kittens, sea otters - will vanish as if they had never been;

Men will say openly that Christ and His saints slept;

There will be war, war and more war.

We know this because the Guardian's Suzanne Goldenberg is on the case. She has got in her climate doom predictions early and though she based her report on a leaked sneak preview rather than the finished document, she has undoubtedly captured the general tone, which is this: things are even worse than we thought!

And are things really even worse than we thought?
Not exactly, no. The real take-home story of the new report we already learned last week: that the latest estimates of the economic costs of "climate change" are considerably lower than previous projections; so much lower, in fact, that the costs could be offset by just a month's global economic growth.

It's to obscure this inconvenient truth that the Big Green Propaganda Machine will now be cranking into overdrive. Over the next few days - watch and listen: they'll be all over the MSM like a suppurating pox rash - "expert" after "expert" will be dragged out of the woodwork to testify that, no, this time it's serious and as a measure of the serious seriousness of it all it's really about time we silenced those Big-Oil-funded climate deniers for good. Throw them in jail, at any rate.

Over the weekend we saw none other than the ex-Archbishop of Canterbury, the bearded wizard Rowan Williams, sticking his crozier in:

Rich, industrialised countries, including our own, have unquestionably contributed most to atmospheric pollution; the development of profitable heavy industry relied on what we now think of as "dirty" energy sources, and involved environmental degradation on an unprecedented scale. Both our present lifestyle in the developed world and the history of how we created such possibilities for ourselves have to bear the responsibility for pushing the environment in which we live towards crisis.

This coincided with a report Taken By Storm by the charity he heads - Christian Aid - demanding "decisive action" to combat climate change.

The WWF is making similar demands:
Samantha Smith, leader of the WWF Global Climate & Energy Initiative says the report highlights, for the first time, the dramatic difference of impacts between a world where we act now to cut emissions, which now come mostly from using fossil fuels; and a world where we fail to act quickly and at scale.

“This report tells us that we have two clear choices: cut emissions now and invest in adaption - and have a world that has challenging and just barely manageable risks; or do nothing and face a world of devastating and unmanageable risks and impacts.”

Even the US Defense Department - to its eternal shame - has been co-opted into the green propaganda war. Last month it published its Quadrennial Defense Review, claiming that "climate change" could be a "threat multiplier."

Climate change poses another significant challenge for the United States and the world at large. As greenhouse gas emissions increase, sea levels are rising, average global temperatures are increasing, and severe weather patterns are accelerating. These changes, coupled with other global dynamics, including growing, urbanizing, more affluent populations, and substantial economic growth in India, China, Brazil, and other nations, will devastate homes, land, and infrastructure. Climate change may exacerbate water scarcity and lead to sharp increases in food costs. The pressures caused by climate change will influence resource competition while placing additional burdens on economies, societies, and governance institutions around the world. These effects are threat multipliers that will aggravate stressors abroad such as poverty, environmental degradation, political instability, and social tensions – conditions that can enable terrorist activity and other forms of violence.

This is about as close to meaningless nonsense as makes no difference - as, no doubt, a good many in the US military are more than aware. But it is the inevitable consequence of the way the climate change worm has infected almost every major institution from the scientific academies and the universities to the various departments of government.

Unfortunately, it has given the IPCC just the excuse it needed to shoehorn war into its long list of things that might be caused some time in the future by global warming. As Seth Borenstein - AP's answer to Suzanne Goldenberg - reports it in his usual breathless fashion:

In an authoritative report due out Monday a United Nations climate panel for the first time is connecting hotter global temperatures to hotter global tempers. Top scientists are saying that climate change will complicate and worsen existing global security problems, such as civil wars, strife between nations and refugees.They're not saying it will cause violence, but will be an added factor making things even more dangerous. Fights over resources, like water and energy, hunger and extreme weather will all go into the mix to destabilize the world a bit more, says the report by the Nobel Peace Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Yeah, Seth, whatever. But you didn't get the stuff about the giant mosquitoes, did you? Or the four horsemen? Or the scorpions eating all the baby polar bears?
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:02 AM   #61
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I wouldn't trust most things any UN group or sub-group says. It just wants international control and it's essentially a socialist organization. Knowing their position on such things as economics helps to evaluate their claims.

Then we have men like Kerry claiming climate ( and a few other issues like terrorism) crosses borders. There's where the international control agenda enters in. Global governance and the desire of the UN to ration energy globally and put in taxes says all. Biggest liars in history and in this galaxy.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:05 AM   #62
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I wouldn't trust most things any UN group or sub-group says. It just wants international control and it's essentially a socialist organization. Know such things helps to evaluate their claims.
Certainly not as trustworthy as your usual acquaintance sources like your neighbor/chiropractor/shaman.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:07 AM   #63
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Certainly not as trustworthy as your usual acquaintance sources like your neighbor/chiropractor/shaman.
Or a socialist authoritarian like you who is a control freak denying freedom of treatment to others.
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:48 PM   #64
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It's quite telling that you think scientists could simply "Cook the books", like the science of climate change is simply one person's crap written in a book which isn't verifiable. This is the disconnect I was talking about earlier, in which you have no clue about how the science works. You think it's like some 1950s accountant book.
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found that an average of 1.97% of scientists admitted to having "fabricated, falsified or modified data or results at least once – a serious form of misconduct by any standard – and up to 33.7% admitted other questionable research practices. In surveys asking about the behaviour of colleagues, admission rates were 14.12% for falsification, and up to 72% for other questionable research practices."
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According to a report in the journal Nature, published retractions in scientific journals have increased around 1,200% over the past decade, even though the number of published papers had gone up by only 44%. Around half of these retractions are suspected cases of misconduct.
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Fanelli has examined this positive result bias. He looked at 4,600 studies across all disciplines between 1990 and 2007, and counted the number of papers that, after declaring an intent to test a particular hypothesis, reported a positive support for it. The overall frequency of positive supports had grown by more than 22% over this time period.
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Just how widespread is scientific fraud and misconduct? A meta-analysis by University of Edinburgh in Scotland behavioral ecologist Daniele Fanelli, PhD, suggests it’s commonplace. Her study, published in May 2009 in the Public Library of Science ONE (Vol. 4, No. 5), finds about 2 percent of scientists admit to either having fabricated or falsified data at least once, and 14 percent say they’ve witnessed colleagues do the same.
Chances are, the prevalence is even higher than people are willing to admit in a survey, Fanelli says. The percentage goes up to 33 percent for more nuanced types of misconduct De Vries mentioned, according to a 2005 article in Nature (Vol. 435, No. 9).
So, if we have a retraction rate of .02% and a 33% rate of misconduct there is a LOT of questionable science out there.

I can point to numerous times that a single study was used over and over again as the basis for further studies/models only for that study to be shown to be wrong.
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So, if we have a retraction rate of .02% and a 33% rate of misconduct there is a LOT of questionable science out there.

I can point to numerous times that a single study was used over and over again as the basis for further studies/models only for that study to be shown to be wrong.
But, science.
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Old 04-02-2014, 02:55 PM   #67
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The Science Czar said we could just block out the suns rays, i mean what a great idea to reflect the sunlight back into outer space...WOOHOOOOOO!! BRILLIANT!
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The Science Czar said we could just block out the suns rays, i mean what a great idea to reflect the sunlight back into outer space...WOOHOOOOOO!! BRILLIANT!
I believe that Mr. Burns tried this. It didn't work.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:31 PM   #69
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I believe that Mr. Burns tried this. It didn't work.
There was an assassination attempt, I recall.
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Most scientists at least agree that the world is getting warmer. What the cause is we can debate, but ignoring that it IS happening is stunningly stupid.

Is the point of this thread to mock something that is going to have a significant impact on everything from farming to fresh water availability to ocean levels? If so, then whoever signs on for that is dumber than a bag of hammers.
It's getting warmer on Mars as well.

Even if we all agree on the premise of Global warming you are talking about the most dire of predictions taking place over hundreds if not up to a couple thousand years.

Can you imagine how silly and dumb/ignorant the collective lot of us will look to be to future generations who have infinitely better technology, knowledge and genetics than we currently have?

They will think we were to quaint and naïve to be worrying about things that were going to affect them in the distant future... I mean lookit, do you really give a whoot about what some ancient Roman Senator or Caesar thought? Can you imagine how much more the average person knows about the world and how it functions than either of these two people from antiquity? and by logical extension how much more adaptable and capable future generations of people will be by the time any of these possible hypothesis come into happening?

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What's your point, there's a collaboration between thinking global warming is true and being ugly?
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I see it like this; is the earth warming in a permanent fashion? I dunno.

Is the warming man caused? I dunno.

Can the government of this country or the government of any country do anything about this in any kind of a cohesive and effective manner? No ****ing way.
There have been how many ice ages come and gone?

Periods of warming and cooling completely unrelated to man at all.

Do we even know if we're on the cooling or heating side of a natural change?

No.
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Except for all of those scientists and national scientific bodies who say we're clearly warming up, and it's bad for the world, and it's all our fault, you mean.
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Except for all of those scientists and national scientific bodies who say we're clearly warming up, and it's bad for the world, and it's all our fault, you mean.
You act like there's a consensus and a known cause-effect.

Look, I'm all for cleaning things up. Pollution is bad. I don't want bad chemicals in my air, food, or water.

I'm all aboard for green as much as possible.

Climates change. Constantly. It's what happens on this planet. With or without man...
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