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Old 03-31-2014, 01:13 PM  
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U.S. could free Israeli spy in deal to save peace talks

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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli spy serving a life sentence in the United States and groups of Palestinian prisoners could be freed under an emerging deal to salvage Middle East peace talks, sources close to the negotiations said on Monday.

The sources, who spoke as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry prepared to meet Israeli and Palestinian leaders, said under the proposed arrangement that Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. Navy analyst caught spying for Israel in the 1980s, could be released by mid-April.

In addition, Israel would go ahead with a promised release of a fourth group of Palestinians, among the 104 it pledged to free in a deal that led to the renewal of peace talks last July. Another group of jailed Palestinians would also go free - and the peace talks would be extended beyond an April 29 deadline, the sources said.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:51 AM   #16
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I'm on the fence on this, as I despise spies. But, Pollard is due to be paroled in a year or so
I view this as a material fact.

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and what he took was our intelligence on Arab states, the Soviet Union and others.
While I would agree that it would be WORSE if his spying relating to OUR data, weapons, or whatever, I don't give him much of a pass on this part. We don't collect data at great expense in blood and treasure so that our friends can steal it from us.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:55 AM   #17
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While I would agree that it would be WORSE if his spying relating to OUR data, weapons, or whatever, I don't give him much of a pass on this part. We don't collect data at great expense in blood and treasure so that our friends can steal it from us.
True, and he's served his time for it. I agree with your post above as well.

Now, if this were Ames or Hannsen, no ****ing way. Those two ****ers should be dead.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:05 AM   #18
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True, and he's served his time for it.
He is serving his time for it. He has not fully served his time for it.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:08 AM   #19
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True, and he's served his time for it. I agree with your post above as well.

Now, if this were Ames or Hannsen, no ****ing way. Those two ****ers should be dead.
Agreed on both.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:09 AM   #20
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He is serving his time for it. He has not fully served his time for it.
Serving 96.66% of his time is sufficient for me if the Administration thinks they get something remotely worthwhile out of giving up that 3.33% of time served.

I do agree with Pat, though, that there is a serious question whether we are getting anything worthwhile however.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:49 AM   #21
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True, and he's served his time for it. I agree with your post above as well.

Now, if this were Ames or Hannsen, no ****ing way. Those two ****ers should be dead.
Serious question...(although not sure why I trust Donger)...
Why does Israel want him back so badly? He can't possibly have valuable intel after this much time. They just feel bad? They want other spies to know they won't turn their backs on them?
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Serious question...(although not sure why I trust Donger)...
Why does Israel want him back so badly? He can't possibly have valuable intel after this much time. They just feel bad? They want other spies to know they won't turn their backs on them?
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You don't see how Israel is playing the US like a fiddle do you?

I don't think an Ally of the stature of Israel is playing us but I feel some good coming from the fact you think they are. Perhaps you have noticed how No one pays attention to Kerry/Biden/Obama on the world stage? If you think Israel is what would you cal the rest of the globe?
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Serious question...(although not sure why I trust Donger)...
Why does Israel want him back so badly? He can't possibly have valuable intel after this much time. They just feel bad? They want other spies to know they won't turn their backs on them?

To kill him? He would be their Snowdon. Is that what you think too?
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