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Old 04-02-2014, 08:36 AM  
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The Supreme Court strikes down campaign donation limits

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court struck down limits Wednesday in federal law on the overall campaign contributions the biggest individual donors may make to candidates, political parties and political action committees.

The justices said in a 5-4 vote that Americans have a right to give the legal maximum to candidates for Congress and president, as well as to parties and PACs, without worrying that they will violate the law when they bump up against a limit on all contributions, set at $123,200 for 2013 and 2014. That includes a separate $48,600 cap on contributions to candidates.

But their decision does not undermine limits on individual contributions to candidates for president or Congress, now $2,600 an election.

Chief Justice John Roberts announced the decision, which split the court's liberal and conservative justices. Roberts said the aggregate limits do not act to prevent corruption, the rationale the court has upheld as justifying contribution limits.

The overall limits "intrude without justification on a citizen's ability to exercise 'the most fundamental First Amendment activities,'" Roberts said, quoting from the court's seminal 1976 campaign finance ruling in Buckley v. Valeo.

Justice Clarence Thomas agreed with the outcome of the case, but wrote separately to say that he would have gone further and wiped away all contribution limits.

Justice Stephen Breyer, writing for the liberal dissenters, took the unusual step of reading a summary of his opinion from the bench.

Congress enacted the limits in the wake of Watergate-era abuses to discourage big contributors from trying to buy votes with their donations and to restore public confidence in the campaign finance system.

But in a series of rulings in recent years, the Roberts court has struck down provisions of federal law aimed at limiting the influence of big donors as unconstitutional curbs on free speech rights.

Most notably, in 2010, the court divided 5-4 in the Citizens United case to free corporations and labor unions to spend as much as they wish on campaign advocacy, as long as it is independent of candidates and their campaigns. That decision did not affect contribution limits to individual candidates, political parties and political action committees.

Republican activist Shaun McCutcheon of Hoover, Ala., the national Republican party and Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky challenged the overall limits on what contributors may give in a two-year federal election cycle. The total is $123,200, including a separate $48,600 cap on contributions to candidates, for 2013 and 2014.

Limits on individual contributions, currently $2,600 per election to candidates for Congress, are not at issue.

Relaxed campaign finance rules have reduced the influence of political parties, McConnell and the GOP argued.

McCutcheon gave the symbolically significant $1,776 to 15 candidates for Congress and wanted to give the same amount to 12 others. But doing so would have put him in violation of the cap.

Nearly 650 donors contributed the maximum amount to candidates, PACs and parties in the last election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

The court did not heed warnings from Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. and advocates of campaign finance limits that donors would be able to funnel large amounts of money to a favored candidate in the absence of the overall limit.

The Republicans also called on the court to abandon its practice over nearly 40 years of evaluating limits on contributions less skeptically than restrictions on spending.

The differing levels of scrutiny have allowed the court to uphold most contribution limits, because of the potential for corruption in large direct donations to candidates. At the same time, the court has found that independent spending does not pose the same risk of corruption and has applied a higher level of scrutiny to laws that seek to limit spending.

If the court were to drop the distinction between contributions and expenditures, even limits on contributions to individual candidates for Congress, currently $2,600 per election, would be threatened, said Fred Wertheimer, a longtime supporter of stringent campaign finance laws.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:11 AM   #166
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JC Penney is taking it on the chin b/c their consumer base is dead or cheap. People don't shop there b/c it offers almost nothing you can't get a better shopping experience for at a different store. They do literally nothing well.
We agree on this.

JCP is going the way of Sears and MonkeyWards. Kmart same way. Retail evolved, the old models are outdated. Kmart is struggling to keep up. Home Depot once had the top position in their business only to be taken down by Lowes. And Menards will give Lowes a run for their money.

Walmart saw the opening to go into smaller markets and no one is there to challenge them. And they sell what people want.
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:42 PM   #167
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:26 PM   #168
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So could JCPenny right?

Well, not exactly since JCPenny is well on its way to bankruptcy.

Yes, having a well known brand name is good but if you don't have the right fit at CEO your company is in trouble.
JCPenny off-loaded their CEO for a new one. The previous one was using a risky, new but never- tried-before everyday-prices-are-low strategy, instead of just having special sales. That's what hurt them. It didn't draw people. People like to feel they're getting a deal. Since, they've had the new CEO, they've redesigned their stores and gone back to having special sales.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:48 PM   #169
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Wasn't JC Penny just outed by a former employee for raising prices up over 200% a few weeks before sales, then selling good at CRAZY LOW REGULAR PRICE!?
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:50 PM   #170
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We agree on this.

JCP is going the way of Sears and MonkeyWards. Kmart same way. Retail evolved, the old models are outdated. Kmart is struggling to keep up. Home Depot once had the top position in their business only to be taken down by Lowes. And Menards will give Lowes a run for their money.

Walmart saw the opening to go into smaller markets and no one is there to challenge them. And they sell what people want.
Menards is a crap hole. Not sure where you are located, but Menard's has been here for years and is likely feeling the hurt from the new Lowe's and Home Depot's where I'm at.

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Old 04-04-2014, 08:17 PM   #171
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Menards is a crap hole. Not sure where you are, but Menard's has been here for years and is likely feeling the hurt from the new Lowe's and Home Depot.
You are right. I retract my statement we were in agreement.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:09 PM   #172
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:37 PM   #173
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Wasn't JC Penny just outed by a former employee for raising prices up over 200% a few weeks before sales, then selling good at CRAZY LOW REGULAR PRICE!?
I haven't heard anything. You think prices aren't listed as higher by others to make something look like a deal? I don't. That's how people's minds work...many of them anyway.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:42 PM   #174
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I haven't heard anything. You think prices aren't listed as higher by others to make something look like a deal? I don't. That's how people's minds work...many of them anyway.
I know it's common practice, but they were outed. Twas just an observation contrary to your statement.
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I know it's common practice, but they were outed. Twas just an observation contrary to your statement.
It didn't contradict anything. It was not related to what I said about them having a new CEO going back to a proven and workable marketing strategy used for a very long time by successful companies. Apparently, you don't read any advertising publications.
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When did the CEO change happen?
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When did the CEO change happen?
I only know that it was relatively recently. I found these

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...11031708241800

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100948492

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3787106.html


The last one was previously with Apple and before that Target. Under him their sales plunged and was a disaster.
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