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Old 04-02-2014, 05:13 PM  
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The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.
The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/04/02...2012-election/
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:29 PM   #31
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You realize that A)the article you are quoting is 2 years old B)the voter fraud we are discussing is not about voter ID and C) the idea that we haven't seen much fraud that voter ID would fix doesn't mean it isn't happening... it simply means we are so broken we can't even see it. The article HC posted proves just how insanely broken our system is.
Like always his "news" is crap.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:30 PM   #32
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:32 PM   #33
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By the way that may be the worst written most horribly articulated poll in the history of the universe. It basically states all three data sets with three different results.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:35 PM   #34
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By the way that may be the worst written most horribly articulated poll in the history of the universe. It basically states all three data sets with three different results.

What poll are you referring to?
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:39 PM   #35
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Agree with the first paragraph. My issue would be with the second not leaving an option for an invalid like go bowe to vote.
Govt paid strippers who come to him with portable voting machine. Problem solved!
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:41 PM   #36
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I'm not worried about it. I fully plan to engage in some extra times in the coming elections. I like to think of it as election overtime.

My dog is in her 70s in dog years, so I'll just vote for her...
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:41 PM   #37
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By the way that may be the worst written most horribly articulated poll in the history of the universe. It basically states all three data sets with three different results.
It's not a poll. Its a result of cross checking the data by the North Carolina State Board of Elections. This info comes directly from them.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:41 PM   #38
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Crazy Dave didn't like the source…Here is a bit more.

http://philberger.com/news/entry/til...rror-and-fraud

The guy is a Republican so assume he is a liar. /Starboy Davelane




Oh, here is more info, seems NC takes the info more seriously than Crazydave. http://www.wral.com/state-elections-...rity/13533579/

But remember. These are Southern folk so racists and rednecks….right Dave?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:02 PM   #39
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One person used Eric Holders name to see if he could vote in his precinct and they allowed him.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:10 PM   #40
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One person used Eric Holders name to see if he could vote in his precinct and they allowed him.
At the poll DaveLane asked about?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:44 PM   #41
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How exactly would voter IDs stop this type of fraud then?
Explain to me how it wouldn't please...

When I get my drivers license renewed the GED recipient saying "look at the dot" and push the button can swipe my old license, check for facial recognition from past IDs and call in his supervisor if he suspects it's not me.

What am I missing here? Do dead people not have ID?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:52 PM   #42
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Otter. The fraud in question likely didn't take place in person. Therefore, ID no worky.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:59 PM   #43
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Otter. The fraud in question likely didn't take place in person. Therefore, ID no worky.
Understood.

I'd be curious to know how many legitimate voters have ever not voted down at the local high school and had to do it in person. I'd be 100% OK with doing away with this mail in, out of state options. If you really want to vote make it a priority for that ONE DAY OUT OF THE YEAR to be available.

Voter fraud is a very big problem.
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:03 PM   #44
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765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
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If you assume these numbers were the same in 2008 (a pretty safe assumption) and that most of these people voted Democrat ( a VERY safe assumption) then Obama would have lost NC in 2008. He only won by 14k votes in 2008.

Anyone who doesn't think this is a very real issue is blind.
I...don't...even...

Of the 35,750 figure, 34,985 of them
- do not have the same exact name as their "match" in another state, and/or
- do not have the same social security number as their "match" in another state

This is obviously a list that's full of stuff like Bill Johnson, dob 7/14/1972 SSN xxx-xx-2819, from North Carolina might be SECRET DOUBLE VOTER with William Johnson, dob 7/14/1972 SSN xxx-xx-4066, from Ohio (or they might be totally different people, WHO CAN KNOW???).

So naturally AustinChief thinks it's fair to assume that OBVIOUSLY, Democrats gained 14,000+ illegal votes from this group of people, only 765 of whom have matching names + SSNs.

What a piece of work.
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It's really not. What your suggesting would discriminate against the poor, the elderly, and would again be kind of racist.
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