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Old 04-03-2014, 05:00 AM  
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Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/packers-prefer-compensatory-picks-over-unrestricted-free-agents/


Packers General Manager Ted Thompson has a formula for building his team, and heís sticking with it.

Thompson believes in building through the draft, not free agency, and that includes acquiring more draft picks by declining to sign unrestricted free agents. In the NFL, teams that lose more in free agency than they acquire get compensatory picks, and the Packersí moves in free agency this year indicate that theyíre already thinking about acquiring compensatory picks for next year. The NFL doesnít public the precise formula used to determine compensatory picks, but the simple version is that if the unrestricted free agents you lose are better, higher-paid players than the unrestricted free agents you sign, then the NFL will compensate you the following year with compensatory picks.

As the Green Bay Press-Gazette points out, even the one big name the Packers have signed this offseason, Julius Peppers, was a free agent because he was released by the Bears, not because his previous contract expired. That means he wonít count as an unrestricted free agent addition for the Packers for the purpose of determining their compensatory picks next year.

Last year the Packers lost two key players, receiver Greg Jennings and linebacker Erik Walden, as unrestricted free agents. And the Packers didnít sign any unrestricted free agents last year. As a result, this year theyíre getting an extra third-round pick and an extra fifth-round pick as compensatory selections.

This year the Packers have again not signed away any players whose previous contract expired, but they have lost four players, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, receiver James Jones, defensive lineman C.J. Wilson and offensive lineman Marshall Newhouse. That means the Packers will almost certainly do well when the compensatory picks are passed out a year from now.

Building through the draft and declining to overspend in free agency would be a smart strategy even if the NFL didnít have a compensatory pick system to reward frugal teams. But when compensatory picks are added to the equation, itís easy to see why Thompson declines to go after free agents. The Packers have been successful this way. Itís surprising more teams havenít copied them.


May not be popular here but Dorsey is doing exactly the same thing Thompson and Ozzie Newsome are doing, stockpile draft picks and let UFAs get overpaid elsewhere.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:48 AM   #76
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Green Bay and KC are both small market teams.

Building a roster through the draft is a wise strategy since they cant compete in recruiting FA compared to a larger market team (which can offer incentives outside the confines of the salary cap).
There's truth here as well.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:49 AM   #77
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That's not bad. At all. But it's also absolutely NOT what Ted Thompson would do.
I think it might be difficult to ascertain exactly what Thompson would do in a situation similar to what Dorsey faced here last year, since Brett Favre was still behind center when Thompson took over.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:50 AM   #78
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I think it might be difficult to ascertain exactly what Thompson would do in a situation similar to what Dorsey faced here last year, since Brett Favre was still behind center when Thompson took over.
Fair.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:50 AM   #79
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I'm not going to pretend to know what Thompson would do but was he them one who traded for Favre?
No, he came in after that.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:51 AM   #80
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:08 AM   #81
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I'm not crying at all. There's absolutely zero emotion in this for me. So every time you bring it up I laugh at how stupid it is.

And it's NOT ABOUT WHAT QB they should have brought in.

It's about what they should be doing to help make Alex Smith a successful QB.

You don't understand the argument at all, and it's obvious.
Let's wait until after the draft to discuss this. They are drafting. WR. Also interested to see what Kelce does this year
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:10 AM   #82
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Let's wait until after the draft to discuss this. They are drafting. WR. Also interested to see what Kelce does this year
I would love to share your confidence. It's just not something I can muster after following this team for 30 years.

I could easily see them taking a defensive lineman or pass rusher (I'd probably be ok with that) or a guard (not ok with this) over a WR.

As for Kelce, I'll be interested to see if he even gets on the field. Anything he provides after that will be a total surprise.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:12 AM   #83
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I just don't see them drafting a WR, as much as I wish that was what they would do. Everything screams 'lineman' to me, on one side of the ball or the other.
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I would love to share your confidence. It's just not something I can muster after following this team for 30 years.

I could easily see them taking a defensive lineman or pass rusher (I'd probably be ok with that) or a guard (not ok with this) over a WR.

As for Kelce, I'll be interested to see if he even gets on the field. Anything he provides after that will be a total surprise.
It's not really confidence. It's just waiting to see if they do something this year. If not than I will point my finger at Dorsey. Until then gotta see how it plays out first.
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I would love to share your confidence. It's just not something I can muster after following this team for 30 years.

I could easily see them taking a defensive lineman or pass rusher (I'd probably be ok with that) or a guard (not ok with this) over a WR.

As for Kelce, I'll be interested to see if he even gets on the field. Anything he provides after that will be a total surprise.
Maybe they go TE with the 1st pick
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:20 AM   #86
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Maybe they go TE with the 1st pick
Nobody here would be happier than me if that happened. I'm a firm believer we need a matchup nightmare at TE.
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They really need Kelce to come through. They're approaching overdraft territory with tight end, drafted 3 in the last 5 years, 2 of those in the 3rd round. Missing that much hurts you elsewhere on the roster.
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Nobody here would be happier than me if that happened. I'm a firm believer we need a matchup nightmare at TE.
If they go TE early and Kelce stays healthy/is a positive at TC.....then they need to ****ing cut Fasano as quick as possible. Dude is making too much to be an insurance policy.
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If they go TE early and Kelce stays healthy/is a positive at TC.....then they need to ****ing cut Fasano as quick as possible. Dude is making too much to be an insurance policy.
Not to mention an insurance policy who couldn't get on the field himself.
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If they go TE early and Kelce stays healthy/is a positive at TC.....then they need to ****ing cut Fasano as quick as possible. Dude is making too much to be an insurance policy.
I don't think they'll take a TE. Reid's offense seems to rely more on the TE to be a solid, unspectacular type rather than a centerpiece of the offense. A guy that can block and surprise defenses deep down the seams. Travis Kelce can be just that kind of guy if he comes back from his surgery ok.

The sad thing is, we've seen what Alex Smith can do with a centerpiece-type TE, so I'd love it if they didn't stop with Kelce.
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