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Old 04-04-2014, 12:09 PM  
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Pat Robertson: Buying stuff ‘by computer’ is the ‘Mark of the Beast’

Televangelist Pat Robertson warned on Thursday that the government was pushing technologies that would force every financial transaction to be controlled “by computer,” and it could be the “Mark of the Beast” described in the Bible’s book of Revelation.

“The Bible says that they cannot buy or sell without the Mark of the Beast,” Robertson noted in a segment about new financial technologies. “And people said, ‘Oh, well, that just fanciful Hebrew rhetoric that doesn’t apply to anybody real.’ Who would have thought that we could live in an age that that could literally come to pass?”

So-called “privacy expert” Katherine Albrecht told CBN that radio frequency identification technologies — or RFID — had “biblical implications.”


“There will be a time when humanity will be forced to take a mark,” she said. “And that mark will be on the right hand or the forehead. It is the number 666.”

But Robertson worried that it was not just RFID that was a sign of the End Times, it was all electronic financial transactions.

“We don’t want to scare people,” he insisted. “The times going to come, we’re not going to have any cash. We don’t need cash.”

“We’re going into some strange world, ladies and gentlemen,” the TV preacher continued. “The pros — the people who are in charge — find that paying cash are an annoyance, and they want everything on your cards. And they want it all by computer.”

“I hate to tell you, it’s coming. Because it is a control thing. And Satan wants to control the lives of all the world. He wants to be God, he wants to be worshipped as God. And he wants to have control over everybody, and that’s how it will be done.”

Robertson concluded: “Can’t buy, can’t sell without the Mark of the Beast.”

CBN invites viewers to donate through credit cards, electronic funds transfers and cash.

Watch the video below from CBN’s The 700 Club, broadcast April 3, 2014.

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Old 04-04-2014, 01:22 PM   #31
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I'd like to get this thread back on topic. Does anyone disagree with Robertson's claim as quoted below?
"Televangelist Pat Robertson warned on Thursday that the government was pushing technologies that would force every financial transaction to be controlled “by computer"

The government is pushing? How about Amazon, Paypal, Visa, Mastercard, American Express, etc.?
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:24 PM   #32
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:26 PM   #33
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When you are getting a BJ in return, it really doesn't count as a donation.
When you give one do you claim it was a donation?
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:35 PM   #34
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It's totally cool though, if all you guys want to use your fancy smartphones to call in a donation to the 700 Club. That's different and demon free....
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:40 PM   #35
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OK so lets just say a few thousand a year. Then my point stands. I've given $100k or so to churches too poor to pay their bills. So that in and of itself probably is more than most churches give directly to the poor.
your claims are unsubstantiated, and I have no desire to do the research to see if an individual whose $100k lifetime donation to a church is more than most churches directly give to the poor.

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Government isn't pushing anything. People are. And by people I mean lazy people like me that caused Amazon to create a "one click purchase" button.
I have no evidence whether the government is or is not pushing a cashless society, but I do know that it is easier to track and audit electronic transactions than those with cash.
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:41 PM   #36
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When you give one do you claim it was a donation?
For someone that humps your leg at every turn,I can't believe that lil jab of mine,went right over his head. Poor Cosmo. Obama really has reduced you to
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:52 PM   #37
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your claims are unsubstantiated, and I have no desire to do the research to see if an individual whose $100k lifetime donation to a church is more than most churches directly give to the poor.



I have no evidence whether the government is or is not pushing a cashless society, but I do know that it is easier to track and audit electronic transactions than those with cash.
your claims are unsubstantiated. And the 100k (ok maybe 80-90k) is just to churches not people thats north of 500k. Not that that is a lot, but its a rare church that give those $'s directly to the poor in 50 years.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:56 PM   #38
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Why do canned goods and volunteer work not "count" in your accounting?
Its not money from the church. If you want to count all the charity of people who work for McDonalds, does McDonalds get the credit? They may also do canned goods drives for their emplyees so should that count?
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:03 PM   #39
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How much $ to the poor (not canned goods or volunteer work by members) but actual dollar bills does your church donate each year to poor non-member people?
Why wouldn't you count those things?
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:04 PM   #40
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Its not money from the church. If you want to count all the charity of people who work for McDonalds, does McDonalds get the credit? They may also do canned goods drives for their emplyees so should that count?
You realize a lot of the volunteer activity goes on at the actual church, right?
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:05 PM   #41
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You realize a lot of the volunteer activity goes on at the actual church, right?
Did I claim it didn't?

What about donation $'s? What goes to help the needy?
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:07 PM   #42
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Its not money from the church. If you want to count all the charity of people who work for McDonalds, does McDonalds get the credit? They may also do canned goods drives for their emplyees so should that count?
You know churched don't just do canned food drives, right? That many also actually prepare meals and deliver meals.
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:08 PM   #43
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Did I claim it didn't?

What about donation $'s? What goes to help the needy?
Volunteering can't help the needy? They have to get a cash payout for it to count? Does the charity you donate to turn around and give the third party your cash?
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:12 PM   #44
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You know churched don't just do canned food drives, right? That many also actually prepare meals and deliver meals.
Sounds like they are enabling a culture of dependency.
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Sounds like they are enabling a culture of dependency.
You mean like Democats?
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