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Old 04-04-2014, 11:09 AM  
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Pat Robertson: Buying stuff ‘by computer’ is the ‘Mark of the Beast’

Televangelist Pat Robertson warned on Thursday that the government was pushing technologies that would force every financial transaction to be controlled “by computer,” and it could be the “Mark of the Beast” described in the Bible’s book of Revelation.

“The Bible says that they cannot buy or sell without the Mark of the Beast,” Robertson noted in a segment about new financial technologies. “And people said, ‘Oh, well, that just fanciful Hebrew rhetoric that doesn’t apply to anybody real.’ Who would have thought that we could live in an age that that could literally come to pass?”

So-called “privacy expert” Katherine Albrecht told CBN that radio frequency identification technologies — or RFID — had “biblical implications.”


“There will be a time when humanity will be forced to take a mark,” she said. “And that mark will be on the right hand or the forehead. It is the number 666.”

But Robertson worried that it was not just RFID that was a sign of the End Times, it was all electronic financial transactions.

“We don’t want to scare people,” he insisted. “The times going to come, we’re not going to have any cash. We don’t need cash.”

“We’re going into some strange world, ladies and gentlemen,” the TV preacher continued. “The pros — the people who are in charge — find that paying cash are an annoyance, and they want everything on your cards. And they want it all by computer.”

“I hate to tell you, it’s coming. Because it is a control thing. And Satan wants to control the lives of all the world. He wants to be God, he wants to be worshipped as God. And he wants to have control over everybody, and that’s how it will be done.”

Robertson concluded: “Can’t buy, can’t sell without the Mark of the Beast.”

CBN invites viewers to donate through credit cards, electronic funds transfers and cash.

Watch the video below from CBN’s The 700 Club, broadcast April 3, 2014.

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Old 04-04-2014, 02:36 PM   #76
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Are you acknowledging that mega churches are for-profit businesses?

Probably shouldn't be tax exempt then, should they?
No, because businesses are people and money is speech. You can't take away a persons speech. It's in the Constituition.
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:47 PM   #77
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aren't government progams great?
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:06 PM   #78
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I have donated more money to people in my life as a credit-card carrying atheist, than most churches ever will.
I highly doubt that, but good story.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:07 PM   #79
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Who cares if Robertson thinks this. It doesn't harm anyone.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:08 PM   #80
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aren't government progams great?
And people like blaise are creating a society of people dependent on it.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:09 PM   #81
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Who cares if Robertson thinks this. It doesn't harm anyone.
...says person with 52,606 posts on a message board where she constantly comments on what people think.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:10 PM   #82
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And people like blaise are creating a society of people dependent on it.
That doesn't make any sense.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:10 PM   #83
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my claims that it is easier to track electronic transactions than those made with cash? that is common sense, but here is a citation1




Churches and charities give to the poor, but it is rare that they give it directly as cash or direct money. That increases the likelihood for fraud. That being said, here is some data from a 2009 poll of churches that had 1,168 churches respond.

Median church operating budget is $295,300.
87% of church income comes from tithes and offerings



7% ministries and support
5% domestic missions
5% international missions
Most charities have a certain amount of fixed overhead costs--not just churches. It's a fact of life. Even to have a job requires having a certain amount of money to have it--clothes, transportation etc. Some of those top execs at the United Way and elsewhere make top salaries even.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:11 PM   #84
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At any rate, shouldn't cosmo's line for the thread be:

"Grrrr! I'm mad at what Pat Robertson said! Grrrr!
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:12 PM   #85
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At any rate, shouldn't cosmo's line for the thread be:

"Grrrr! I'm mad at what Pat Robertson said! Grrrr!
Sounds right to me.
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Of course, the intelligent person already knows that the primary purpose of a church is to advance the spiritual life of its people, and not to provide charity to the outside world although that is a nice and expected addendum.
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Of course, the intelligent person already knows that the primary purpose of a church is to advance the spiritual life of its people, and not to provide charity to the outside world although that is a nice and expected addendum.
I saw those pics cosmos showed as someone quoted them, and I thought a church feeds the souls of its parishioners too. Then the parishioners practice charity as part of that.
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I saw those pics cosmos showed as someone quoted them, and I thought a church feeds the souls of its parishioners too. Then the parishioners practice charity as part of that.
Shit, I'm on ignore again.
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CEO Salaries of some large Charities in the recent past:
UNICEF $472,891 - Caryl Stern last reported
United Way $717,076 - last reported of Brian Gallagher
Red Cross $1,037,000 - Gail McGovern 2010

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/charities.asp

Linked to Forbes 2009 report, Charity Navigator, Guide Star website.
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