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Old 04-04-2014, 11:09 AM  
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Pat Robertson: Buying stuff ‘by computer’ is the ‘Mark of the Beast’

Televangelist Pat Robertson warned on Thursday that the government was pushing technologies that would force every financial transaction to be controlled “by computer,” and it could be the “Mark of the Beast” described in the Bible’s book of Revelation.

“The Bible says that they cannot buy or sell without the Mark of the Beast,” Robertson noted in a segment about new financial technologies. “And people said, ‘Oh, well, that just fanciful Hebrew rhetoric that doesn’t apply to anybody real.’ Who would have thought that we could live in an age that that could literally come to pass?”

So-called “privacy expert” Katherine Albrecht told CBN that radio frequency identification technologies — or RFID — had “biblical implications.”


“There will be a time when humanity will be forced to take a mark,” she said. “And that mark will be on the right hand or the forehead. It is the number 666.”

But Robertson worried that it was not just RFID that was a sign of the End Times, it was all electronic financial transactions.

“We don’t want to scare people,” he insisted. “The times going to come, we’re not going to have any cash. We don’t need cash.”

“We’re going into some strange world, ladies and gentlemen,” the TV preacher continued. “The pros — the people who are in charge — find that paying cash are an annoyance, and they want everything on your cards. And they want it all by computer.”

“I hate to tell you, it’s coming. Because it is a control thing. And Satan wants to control the lives of all the world. He wants to be God, he wants to be worshipped as God. And he wants to have control over everybody, and that’s how it will be done.”

Robertson concluded: “Can’t buy, can’t sell without the Mark of the Beast.”

CBN invites viewers to donate through credit cards, electronic funds transfers and cash.

Watch the video below from CBN’s The 700 Club, broadcast April 3, 2014.

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Old 04-04-2014, 03:49 PM   #91
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:58 PM   #92
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I saw those pics cosmos showed as someone quoted them, and I thought a church feeds the souls of its parishioners too. Then the parishioners practice charity as part of that.
A church is a gathering of believers, it can be in a structure or where it began: in homes. In order to have a Pastor you may need to pay him a salary, and might want to pay electric bills etc and the mortgage on the building too.


Put another way: 10% is the "tithe" level. There was never any expectation you'd give 100% of your income to God/Church/Charity. So why are people upset when churches give 10%?
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Old 04-04-2014, 04:28 PM   #93
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A church is a gathering of believers, it can be in a structure or where it began: in homes. In order to have a Pastor you may need to pay him a salary, and might want to pay electric bills etc and the mortgage on the building too.


Put another way: 10% is the "tithe" level. There was never any expectation you'd give 100% of your income to God/Church/Charity. So why are people upset when churches give 10%?
Somebody has to pay for the protest signs you and your like use at fallen soldiers funerals right bitch?
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Old 04-04-2014, 04:39 PM   #94
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:31 PM   #95
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Its not money from the church. If you want to count all the charity of people who work for McDonalds, does McDonalds get the credit? They may also do canned goods drives for their emplyees so should that count?

If it's a McDonalds organized charity event, sure I give them the credit. If it's a McDonalds organized food drive, absolutely.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:25 PM   #97
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:36 PM   #98
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A church is not primarily an institution for feeding the poor. It is for the spiritual care of its members and the sharing of the out workings of that with the community, some of which are philanthropy. But it's a misunderstanding to say that churches should spend all their money feeding people because in the view of churches, people's primary needs are not the needs of the physical body but of the soul.

If, like many large charities who leftists pride themselves on contributing to instead of churches, a church purported itself to be primarily an instrument of charity, then it would be opulent to build a large building. As this is not their primary purpose, it's no more opulent than it would be of a football team building a stadium when they can just as well play in a pasture.

Of course, that's a bit of a tortured analogy since there are many principles to be found in scripture related to sacrifice and living simply, and excess certainly is a hallmark of many churches, lots of which have departed from the historic faith. But this does not mean they aren't being true to their mission, just that their mission is not what the critic would rather it be.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:58 PM   #100
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People went nuts when banks started charging interest and when we moved off the gold standard, too. We survived.

Times are scary, change happens, but it will be okay.
I got news for you, all one can do is survive. It's not a standard;survival is inadequate. I don't know about you but I want more than just survival. Going off the gold standard has brought a host of new problems. We can do better.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:14 PM   #101
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I saw those pics cosmos showed as someone quoted them, and I thought a church feeds the souls of its parishioners too. Then the parishioners practice charity as part of that.
In a very strong field, this is one of the stupidest things you have said to date.
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People went nuts when banks started charging interest and when we moved off the gold standard, too. We survived.

Times are scary, change happens, but it will be okay.
and much like Obama you can keep the change.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:25 AM   #103
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not really, just an average human being out trying to make money peddling something he knows nothing about.
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I'd like to get this thread back on topic. Does anyone disagree with Robertson's claim as quoted below?
Everybody should disagree with Robertson's claim until the Government proposes to stop printing currency.
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Everybody should disagree with Robertson's claim until the Government proposes to stop printing currency.
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