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Old 04-05-2014, 04:12 PM  
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Seems you cant look at Yahoo these days without seeing atleast one story about KISS... stuff about the Rock HOF, links to a huge Rolling Stone article etc.

It got my juices flowing for all things KISS, spent a good bit of last night watching concerts and clips, it all reminded just how freakin cool these guys were... they are directly responsible for my love of rock n roll and I'm far from alone, everyone from Garth Brooks to Pearl Jam (Mike McCreadys solo on Alive is aped from Ace Frehleys solo on She) consider them huge influences.

Its a disgrace that it took them this long to get into the Hall... they've sold more albums than The Who, Van Halen and The Doors, among many others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

So this thread is for all of you aging KISS ARMY fanatics out there, post up your favorite song, cover by a modern rock act or complete concert, interviews or whatever.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:53 PM   #16
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:58 PM   #17
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Totally forgot about that scene, but exactly.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:25 PM   #18
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One more point before I give up on this mfer (buncha ****ing stiffs the lot of ya)... people like to complain about their musicianship, yet COUNTLESS successful artists count them among their biggest musical influences.

People also like to complain about "lowbrow" subjects... tell me again what the Beatles sang about for over half their existence... I'll go ahead and tell you, it was GIRLS AND PARTYING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME, their best stuff was about GIRLS.

Same as the Stones right now, same as AC/DC and Van Halen since forever, same as ALL of these mfers... rock n roll can be boiled down to two basic subjects, and those basic subjects are SEX AND WOMEN.

So spare me the lectures about "they were just a party band"... EVERY good rock act is a party band.

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Old 04-05-2014, 11:32 PM   #19
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Maybe more influential then Van Halen. Not The Who or The Doors though.

The problem with KISS is that all their songs sound a whole lot better when preformed by other people.
The Doors weren't all the influential. Great band but didn't inspire too many others to continue expanding on the genre.

As for the Who, there's probably a half dozen bands from the same scene in England that were more influential, let alone in rock history. The biggest contribution they made was when Pete Townsend discovered Hendrix.

It's been discussed here before. Everybody loves to bag on KISS. They brought a lot of it on themselves. But when it comes right down to it, about the only band that gets mentioned more when the "influence" question comes up is the Beatles. Scott free is 100% right.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:48 PM   #20
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I love that New York Groove song...never even realized it was KISS until they played it on that Tattoo show opening a few years back.

Love KISS, not highbrow, but it's a lot of fun. Even their 80s hair metal stuff I like.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:56 PM   #21
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What in the hell are you TALKING about? Be specific, please.

Its only rock n roll... some of you people REALLY overthink all of this.
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:01 AM   #22
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I love that New York Groove song...never even realized it was KISS until they played it on that Tattoo show opening a few years back.

Love KISS, not highbrow, but it's a lot of fun. Even their 80s hair metal stuff I like.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:05 AM   #23
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What in the hell are you TALKING about? Be specific, please.

Its only rock n roll... some of you people REALLY overthink all of this.
I'm talking about mentioning KISS in the same sentence as Van Halen, AC/DC and the Rolling Stones. I don't hate KISS, but c'mon...
KISS's main influence is in the field of theatrics--the make up, the explosions, Gene breathing fire, etc.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:31 AM   #24
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I'm talking about mentioning KISS in the same sentence as Van Halen, AC/DC and the Rolling Stones. I don't hate KISS, but c'mon...
KISS's main influence is in the field of theatrics--the make up, the explosions, Gene breathing fire, etc.
wrong, Wrong, WRONG... you and millions of others have been convinced of this opinion without actually listening to the albums, like so many musicians who you surely respect have.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...rea358806.html

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...uence-20140403

And bear in mind, Mike is just one of countless rock stars who consider KISS huge musical influences, its not just some weird joke Cosmo... these guys were ****ING HUGE, just because you were unaware doesn't mean that this world wasn't exisiting out of your sight.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:01 AM   #25
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wrong, Wrong, WRONG... you and millions of others have been convinced of this opinion without actually listening to the albums, like so many musicians who you surely respect have.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...rea358806.html

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...uence-20140403

And bear in mind, Mike is just one of countless rock stars who consider KISS huge musical influences, its not just some weird joke Cosmo... these guys were ****ING HUGE, just because you were unaware doesn't mean that this world wasn't exisiting out of your sight.
I've listened to the albums. I own some of them. I know they were ****ing huge--and a huge part of that was the image.

Motley Crue > KISS
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I have zero hate for KISS, good for them. I don't know if you can really compare them to stuff like The Who though. Just a different thing, tough to compare. I think The Who belongs up there with the Beatles, Beach Boys, etc. If for nothing else writing "Tommy," but there's a million other reasons. It's all subjective though.
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I've listened to the albums. I own some of them. I know they were ****ing huge--and a huge part of that was the image.

Motley Crue > KISS
atleast tk is being intellectually honest here.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:46 AM   #28
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I'm talking about mentioning KISS in the same sentence as Van Halen, AC/DC and the Rolling Stones. I don't hate KISS, but c'mon...
KISS's main influence is in the field of theatrics--the make up, the explosions, Gene breathing fire, etc.
That's just not true. The theatrics were a big influence, yes. But the band, due to exposure and marketing, were just huge.

Musically, I wouldn't put them in the same sentence with VH or AC/DC, no.

Buy when you read/see interview after interview with musicians who say the first album they bought with their own money was "destroyer" and the first concert they went to was KISS, the level of influence is undeniable.
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I have zero hate for KISS, good for them. I don't know if you can really compare them to stuff like The Who though. Just a different thing, tough to compare. I think The Who belongs up there with the Beatles, Beach Boys, etc. If for nothing else writing "Tommy," but there's a million other reasons. It's all subjective though.
You're talking about musicianship and artistic contribution, not influence.

"Tommy" is a masterpiece. Nothing KISS did comes close. But millions of budding musicians didn't ever say "I want to do THAT".
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That's just not true. The theatrics were a big influence, yes. But the band, due to exposure and marketing, were just huge.

Musically, I wouldn't put them in the same sentence with VH or AC/DC, no.

Buy when you read/see interview after interview with musicians who say the first album they bought with their own money was "destroyer" and the first concert they went to was KISS, the level of influence is undeniable.
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You're talking about musicianship and artistic contribution, not influence.

"Tommy" is a masterpiece. Nothing KISS did comes close. But millions of budding musicians didn't ever say "I want to do THAT".
Kids saw the makeup and explosions and said, "I want to be a rock star." If that's the kind of influence you and scot are talking about, then fine. But as far as an influence on MUSIC? No. Did those kids grow up and think, I want to make MUSIC like KISS? I don't think so.
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