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Rancher: armed feds are surrounding my farm

A two-decades-old battle between a Nevada rancher and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has resulted in officials armed with machine guns surrounding the ranch and forcibly removing the owner’s cattle, according to the rancher’s family.

Cliven Bundy, the last rancher in Clark County, Nev., has been fighting a “one-man range war” since 1993, when he decided to take a stand against the agency, refusing to pay fees for the right to graze on a ranch run by his family for centuries.

After years of court battles, the BLM secured a federal court order to have Bundy’s “trespass cattle” forcibly removed with heavy artillery, the family said.

“The battle’s been going on for 20 years,” Bundy told theWashington Free Beacon. “What’s happened the last two weeks, the United States government, the bureaus are getting this army together and they’re going to get their job done and they’re going to prove two things. They’re going to prove they can do it, and they’re gonna prove that they have unlimited power, and that they control the policing power over this public land. That’s what they’re trying to prove.”

Bundy said the government has brought everything but tanks and rocket launchers.

“They’re carrying the same things a soldier would,” he said. “Automatic weapons, sniper rifles, top communication, top surveillance equipment, lots of vehicles. It’s heavy soldier type equipment.”

His wife, Carol Bundy, said that roughly 200 armed agents from the BLM and FBI are stationed around their land, located about 75 miles outside of Las Vegas. Helicopters circle the premises, and the airspace and nearby roads remain blocked.

“We’re surrounded,” Carol Bundy said. “We’re estimating that there are over 200 armed BLM, FBI. We’ve got surveillance cameras at our house, they’re probably listening to me talk to you right now.”

A National Park Service spokesman denied there were armed guards rounding up the cattle in a conference call on Tuesday. However, she confirmed that there was “security” in place, citing threats to the contractors who are removing the cattle.

“Contractors are here and they are in place to round-up the cattle and to bring them to the impound area,” Christie Vanover said. “As for security, there [is] security in place, but that is merely to protect the contractors.”

“As you know, we have received threats and the contractors have received threats,” Vanover said. “Our personnel here and throughout the park service and throughout the BLM have received threats, as well. So security is in place to merely protect the contractors so that we can complete this operation.”

As of Monday, officials have seized 234 of Bundy’s 908 cattle. Impounding the cattle alone could cost the government as much as $3 million.

“They just brought a load down today,” she said. “They kind of harass us as well. When we leave they follow us.”

This afternoon eight helicopters surrounded the family after they began taking pictures, according to Bundy’s daughter, Bailey. Their son, Dave Bundy, was arrested for taking pictures on state road 170, which has been closed, and is being held by BLM.

The BLM said they took Dave Bundy into custody following his “failure to comply with multiple requests by BLM law enforcement to leave the temporary closure area on public lands.”

Carol Bundy said five officials took Dave and “threw him on the ground.”

“One put his knee on his head, the other put his boot on his head and pushed him into the gravel,” she said. “He’s got quite a bruised head. Just bruised him up pretty good.”

Environmentalists are praising the government’s forceful actions, which are being taken to protect the “desert tortoise.”

“We’re heartened and thankful that the agencies are finally living up to their stewardship duty,” said Rob Mrowka, a Nevada-based senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. “The Gold Butte area has been officially designated as critical habitat for threatened tortoises—meaning the area is essential to their long-term survival as a species.”

“[Cliven] Bundy has long falsely believed that Gold Butte is his ranch,” added Terri Robertson, president of Friends of Sloan Canyon.

The BLM designated 186,909 acres of the Gold Butte off-limits for the “critical desert tortoise” population in 1998. Bundy had already lost his grazing permit five years earlier for refusing to pay fees for the land, which his family has ranched since the 1870s.

The “federal grazing fee” is $1.35 per “Animal Unit Month,” or the amount of forage needed per animal, each month. Bundy said he owes roughly $300,000 in back fees, while the BLM asserts he owes over $1 million. The BLM defended the removal because Bundy did not “voluntarily” give up his cattle.

“We’ve tried to do this through the legal and we’ve tried to do it through the political, and what we’re at right now, I guess we’re going to have to try to stand,” Cliven Bundy said. “We the people have to stand on the ground and get our state sovereignty back, and also take some liberty and freedoms back to where we have at least access to this land.”

“The story is a lot about the cattle, but the bigger story is about our loss of freedom,” Carol Bundy added. “They have come and taken over this whole corner of the county. They’ve taken over policing power, they’ve taken over our freedom, and they’re stealing cattle.”

“And our sheriff says he just doesn’t have authority, our governor says he doesn’t have authority, and we’re saying, why are we a state?”

“I’m a producer,” Cliven Bundy said. “I produce edible commodity from the desert forage, and all of these things are governed under state law. So, in other words, this type of government has eliminated all of our state law, eliminated our state sovereignty, and has took control over our public lands and even took control over our Clark County sheriff. They’ve taken the whole county over. The whole state, almost.”

“This is just about power of the government,” Carol Bundy said.

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R.) voiced his concern about so-called “First Amendment Areas,” designated locations set up by the BLM where citizens can protest the removal.

“Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution,” he said in a statement Tuesday.

“To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately,” he said. “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”

Sandoval also said his office has received numerous complaints about the BLM’s conduct, including road closures and “other disturbances.”

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Old 04-11-2014, 09:52 PM   #136
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Old Harry he care about turtles but those migratory birds and eagles can kiss his ass. Those wind farms to sell power to where and who? The Brothels that draw in the miners. That spring up all over out there in the middle of nowhere. From what a understand a Bundy has been ranching in Nevada and grazing cattle for over 150 years. Id love to see the Deeds and how the Feds came to claim this land. The BLM is just what it states. They manage the land under there ownership for the good of the people. Cattle is for the good of the people. The only reason this is an issue now is the probability the electric grid will go Kapoof. Vegas will have the fancy lights burning and the Casinos wont miss a beat. All for some blight on the land like solar panels or wind turbines. Gotta keep the Blue hairs punching the buttons and pulling the lever.

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Old 04-11-2014, 09:54 PM   #137
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It isn't Nevada land.
But the one to make the claim otherwise is the state of Nevada, and they aren't making it. You're doubling down on dumb.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:01 PM   #138
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It only started being federal land when the feds up and decided they wanted it, for decades it was nearly worthless scrub fit only for raising hardy cattle stock, Bundy paid his fee's annually to Nevada for this nearly worthless land, Nevada land.

It was never considered federal until recently, it was public Nevada land, but lets cast that all aside for a minute... why was a small army of snipers, dogs and mercenaries in body armor needed for some rancher who owes a mill, maybe 2 (if we're to believe government horseshit)?

Wall Street owes America billions but I don't recall seeing snipers on top of the buildings and german shepherds charging at them.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:10 PM   #139
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Old Harry he care about turtles but those migratory birds and eagles can kiss his ass. Those wind farms to sell power to where and who? The Brothels that draw in the miners. That spring up all over out there in the middle of nowhere. From what a understand a Bundy has been ranching in Nevada and grazing cattle for over 150 years. Id love to see the Deeds and how the Feds came to claim this land. The BLM is just what it states. They manage the land under there ownership for the good of the people. Cattle is for the good of the people. The only reason this is an issue now is the probability the electric grid will go Kapoof. Vegas will have the fancy lights burning and the Casinos wont miss a beat. All for some blight on the land like solar panels or wind turbines. Gotta keep the Blue hairs punching the buttons and pulling the lever.
Now = 20+ years

And he's still allowed to be there (which isn't his land) if he'd pay a fee that he says he is willing to pay to the state but not the feds. **** that guy.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:11 PM   #140
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It only started being federal land when the feds up and decided they wanted it, for decades it was nearly worthless scrub fit only for raising hardy cattle stock, Bundy paid his fee's annually to Nevada for this nearly worthless land, Nevada land.

It was never considered federal until recently, it was public Nevada land, but lets cast that all aside for a minute... why was a small army of snipers, dogs and mercenaries in body armor needed for some rancher who owes a mill, maybe 2 (if we're to believe government horseshit)?

Wall Street owes America billions but I don't recall seeing snipers on top of the buildings and german shepherds charging at them.
You have anything to back up anything you are saying?
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Amazing the forces mobilized over one old man and a few cows. Mexicans swarm over the border and we do nothing. An ambassador dies in a shithole in mideast and we still have no one in custody. Eric Holder runs guns to drug cartel and he wont release information to congress.

And people defend the BLM and wont hold government accountable.

Are we seeing the beginning of individuals saying enough is enough ? BLM must win. Government cannot afford for the people to see they can stand up and win.
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This is what Nevada looks like. See any turtles does it look like good turtle habitat. Except for Reno and Vegas this is Nevada.
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Grazing capacity on most of Nevada BLM land is over 100 acres per animal unit. Cosmo or Fish will explain what this means and why it is important.
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Another question no one is addressing is why the **** does the BLM have armed men, snipers, helicopters, etc? When the hell did 'land management' require an armed force? Guess we know what those land fees are for...
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The BLM Office of Law Enforcement & Security, headquartered in Washington, D.C., is a federal law enforcement agency of the U.S. government. All Law Enforcement Rangers and Special Agents receive their training through Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC). Law Enforcement Rangers attend the Land Management Police Training (LMPT) academy at FLTEC, while BLM Special Agents attend the Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP) at FLETC.

BLM Law Enforcement Rangers and Special Agents make up the law enforcement capability of the BLM. Rangers and Special Agents are located in each of the western states that have BLM lands. Law Enforcement Rangers make up the uniformed high visibility enforcement of laws. Special Agents investigate crimes against property, visitors and employees.

Uniformed Law Enforcement Rangers enforce Federal laws and regulations governing BLM lands and resources. Law Enforcement Rangers also enforce some or all state laws on BLM lands. As part of that mission Law Enforcement Rangers carry firearms, defensive equipment, make arrests, execute search warrants, complete reports and testify in court. They establish a regular and recurring presence on a vast amount of public lands, roads, and recreation sites. The primary focus of their jobs is the protection of natural resources, protection of BLM employees and the protection of visitors. They use K-9s, helicopters, snowmobiles, dirt bikes and boats to perform their duties.

Special Agents are criminal investigators who plan and conduct investigations concerning possible violations of criminal and administrative provisions of the BLM and other statutes under the United States Code. Special agents are normally plain clothes officers who carry concealed firearms, and other defensive equipment, make arrests, carry out complex criminal investigations, present cases for prosecution to U.S. Attorneys, and prepare investigative reports. Criminal investigators occasionally conduct internal and civil claim investigations.
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Renewable energy coordination offices

In one of his last official acts of office, Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has helped pave the way for his replacement, Ken Salazar, by authorizing the BLM to establish offices that will expedite renewable energy development on the National System of Public Lands. The new Renewable Energy Coordination Offices will expedite the permitting of wind, solar, biomass, and geothermal projects on BLM-managed lands, along with the electrical transmission facilities needed to deliver the energy from those projects to power-thirsty cities.[9]

The offices will initially be located in the four states where companies have shown the greatest interest in renewable energy development: Arizona, California, Nevada, and Wyoming. The new offices will also improve the BLM's coordination with state agencies and other federal agencies, including DOE and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.[9]

In October 2009, Interior Secretary Salazar and BLM Director Bob Abbey officially opened the California Renewable Energy Coordination Office and are staffing additional offices in Arizona, Nevada and Wyoming. To lead the overall initiative, Secretary Salazar has established a National Renewable Energy Office at BLM’s Headquarters in Washington D.C.[10]

The four Renewable Energy Coordinating Offices have 62 positions to support the processing of renewable energy and transmission applications. Thirty-five additional renewable energy support staff have been identified for BLM renewable permitting teams in the western states of Colorado, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Oregon, and Utah.
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Another question no one is addressing is why the **** does the BLM have armed men, snipers, helicopters, etc? When the hell did 'land management' require an armed force? Guess we know what those land fees are for...
When they are trying to remove a trespasser who has attracted a mob of violent dipshits determined to protect the trespasser's ability to trespass.
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When they are trying to remove a trespasser who has attracted a mob of violent dipshits determined to protect the trespasser's ability to trespass.
First off, word geek. He's not trespassing. his cows are
Second off, word geek. Violent?
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