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Old 04-10-2014, 09:38 AM  
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Holder: We Want to Explore Gun Tracking Bracelets

Attorney General Eric Holder said on Friday that gun tracking bracelets are something the Justice Department (DOJ) wants to “explore” as part of its gun control efforts.

When discussing gun violence prevention programs within the DOJ, Holder told a House appropriations subcommittee that his agency is looking into technological innovations.



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Holder: We Want to Explore Gun Tracking Bracelets
DOJ requesting $2 million for ‘Gun Safety Technology’ grants
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BY: Elizabeth Harrington
April 7, 2014 1:21 pm

Attorney General Eric Holder said on Friday that gun tracking bracelets are something the Justice Department (DOJ) wants to “explore” as part of its gun control efforts.

When discussing gun violence prevention programs within the DOJ, Holder told a House appropriations subcommittee that his agency is looking into technological innovations.

“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.

“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.

The Justice Department has requested $382.1 million in increased spending for its fiscal year 2014 budget for “gun safety.”

Included in the proposal is $2 million for “Gun Safety Technology” grants, which would award prizes for technologies that are “proven to be reliable and effective.”

President Barack Obama’s budget proposal also calls for $1.1 billion to “protect Americans from gun violence—including $182 million to support the president’s ‘Now is the Time’ gun safety initiative.”

A recent innovation allows a gun owner to only unlock a safe with a fingerprint scan and an “RFID-equipped bracelet.”

Others have suggested manufacturing GPS tracking and RFID chips into every gun. RFID chips transmit location data and are used by law enforcement agencies to send automatic alerts if a weapon moves away from the tracker, indicating that the gun is lost or stolen.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/holder-...ing-bracelets/
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:33 PM   #16
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And he didn't say what the article says he said. Classic misinformation article designed to get people riled up.
Power of extrapolation:


1. Bracelet must me matched to firearm
2. Firearm must be registered to firearm owner
3. Bracelet must be registered to firearm owner

These things must happen to ensure the firearm is used only by the registered user, i.e. the "the person who is lawfully in possession of he weapon".

So, if they don't track the bracelet and everything it is used for how else do they ensure the wearer of said bracelet is a person who can lawfully possess the firearm?
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:46 PM   #17
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Power of extrapolation:


1. Bracelet must me matched to firearm
2. Firearm must be registered to firearm owner
3. Bracelet must be registered to firearm owner

These things must happen to ensure the firearm is used only by the registered user, i.e. the "the person who is lawfully in possession of he weapon".

So, if they don't track the bracelet and everything it is used for how else do they ensure the wearer of said bracelet is a person who can lawfully possess the firearm?
What makes you think the bracelet is tracked? Where does he say that? Based on the few vague sentences from him, it sounds more like a bracelet someone would wear so that the firearm can be fired. Not something that knows the name of the person wearing it. It would be a more simple case of the bracelet is in the proper vicinity, so this weapon can be used.

The title of the story is clearly intented to make the reader think the gubbment is going to track everyone who has a gun. That is why they added the part about the "RFID-equipped bracelet." To get people to think that is what he was talking about.

I understand the extrapolation and as I said, you are supposed to extrapolate so that you can get angry about it. The article is designed that way.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:48 PM   #18
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And it appears he didn't say what the article says he said. Classic misinformation article designed to get people riled up and angry.
Do you really think a bracelet with the ability to communicate with a gun couldn't be tracked? Are you that simple?
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:49 PM   #19
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Do you really think a bracelet with the ability to communicate with a gun couldn't be tracked? Are you that simple?
I didn't say that. Did you really read the article and see that he said they were looking into tracking bracelets? Are you really that simple?
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:53 PM   #20
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I didn't say that. Did you really read the article and see that he said they were looking into tracking bracelets? Are you really that simple?
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“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”
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What makes you think the bracelet is tracked? Where does he say that? Based on the few vague sentences from him, it sounds more like a bracelet someone would wear so that the firearm can be fired. Not something that knows the name of the person wearing it. It would be a more simple case of the bracelet is in the proper vicinity, so this weapon can be used.

The title of the story is clearly intented to make the reader think the gubbment is going to track everyone who has a gun. That is why they added the part about the "RFID-equipped bracelet." To get people to think that is what he was talking about.

I understand the extrapolation and as I said, you are supposed to extrapolate so that you can get angry about it. The article is designed that way.
Seriously? Is the concept of extrapolation lost on you for the moment? If they aren't tracking the bracelets then how do you know the bracelets are being issued only for "people who can lawfully possess a weapon"?
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:59 PM   #22
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I understand the concern but he didn't say they were looking into tracking bracelets. I guess you could say the bracelet tracks a gun, but I took it to meant the bracelets and gun owners would be tracked by the government, hence the rfid stuff. I guess I could be wrong on the articles intent and tone, though I don't think so.
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Seriously? Is the concept of extrapolation lost on you for the moment? If they aren't tracking the bracelets then how do you know the bracelets are being issued only for "people who can lawfully possess a weapon"?
They apply and they get one? Either way this is so far out there though I don't think it's worth worrying about.
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Seriously? Is the concept of extrapolation lost on you for the moment? If they aren't tracking the bracelets then how do you know the bracelets are being issued only for "people who can lawfully possess a weapon"?
There can easily be a connection between just the bracelet and the gun that does not require communication with any tracking system.

But all that's beside the point, as this will never ever happen.
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Seriously? Is the concept of extrapolation lost on you for the moment? If they aren't tracking the bracelets then how do you know the bracelets are being issued only for "people who can lawfully possess a weapon"?
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They apply and they get one? Either way this is so far out there though I don't think it's worth worrying about.

I've got an idea - we could make people who have proven they are a legal voter wear an electronic bracelet into the polling places to allow them to enter the voting booth!

I bet all you libtards would be on board with that, right?
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I've got an idea - we could make people who have proven they are a legal voter wear an electronic bracelet into the polling places to allow them to enter the voting booth!

I bet all you libtards would be on board with that, right?
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They should make the bracelet talk to the gun through wi-fi. That way it will never work at an airport or on an airplane.

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