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Old 04-10-2014, 09:38 AM  
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Holder: We Want to Explore Gun Tracking Bracelets

Attorney General Eric Holder said on Friday that gun tracking bracelets are something the Justice Department (DOJ) wants to “explore” as part of its gun control efforts.

When discussing gun violence prevention programs within the DOJ, Holder told a House appropriations subcommittee that his agency is looking into technological innovations.



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Holder: We Want to Explore Gun Tracking Bracelets
DOJ requesting $2 million for ‘Gun Safety Technology’ grants
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BY: Elizabeth Harrington
April 7, 2014 1:21 pm

Attorney General Eric Holder said on Friday that gun tracking bracelets are something the Justice Department (DOJ) wants to “explore” as part of its gun control efforts.

When discussing gun violence prevention programs within the DOJ, Holder told a House appropriations subcommittee that his agency is looking into technological innovations.

“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.

“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.

The Justice Department has requested $382.1 million in increased spending for its fiscal year 2014 budget for “gun safety.”

Included in the proposal is $2 million for “Gun Safety Technology” grants, which would award prizes for technologies that are “proven to be reliable and effective.”

President Barack Obama’s budget proposal also calls for $1.1 billion to “protect Americans from gun violence—including $182 million to support the president’s ‘Now is the Time’ gun safety initiative.”

A recent innovation allows a gun owner to only unlock a safe with a fingerprint scan and an “RFID-equipped bracelet.”

Others have suggested manufacturing GPS tracking and RFID chips into every gun. RFID chips transmit location data and are used by law enforcement agencies to send automatic alerts if a weapon moves away from the tracker, indicating that the gun is lost or stolen.

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Old 04-11-2014, 03:25 PM   #31
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I can't hardly believe that this is a serious proposal.
Holder is the epitome of the Peter principle. Of course he's serious.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:34 PM   #32
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it's not just the stupid ideas, it's spending the stupid money on them
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:06 AM   #33
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Holder is so ****ing ignorant. And ignorant racist at that.

I hope he knows every time he says something stupid like this, more folks run out and buy their first weapon, others go buy their 2nd, 3rd, 9th, or 50th to try to avoid these ignorant ideas.

Anyway, if he's smart, he's invested in all the weapon companies. Lord knows he's driving their profits like crazy!
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Old 04-12-2014, 10:11 AM   #34
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:05 PM   #35
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Old 04-12-2014, 04:25 PM   #36
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I can't hardly believe that this is a serious proposal.
Hey, our tax dollars paid for the Enviro Whackos Turtle crossing in Fla. for a mere 400K. And I know there are much more and bigger financial Govt. spending atrocities than that.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:23 PM   #37
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This is complete crap. A total fabrication.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:27 PM   #38
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Hey, our tax dollars paid for the Enviro Whackos Turtle crossing in Fla. for a mere 400K. And I know there are much more and bigger financial Govt. spending atrocities than that.
Supposedly the Tallahassee turtle tunnel cost $3.4 million, and it's 13 feet long.
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This RFID bracelet stuff seems too unwieldy and unreliable to be practical at this point.

Microstamping ammo might actually help. I would rather see numbers on that.
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This RFID bracelet stuff seems too unwieldy and unreliable to be practical at this point.

Microstamping ammo might actually help. I would rather see numbers on that.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:41 PM   #41
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This RFID bracelet stuff seems too unwieldy and unreliable to be practical at this point.

Microstamping ammo might actually help. I would rather see numbers on that.
Cheap, but ultimately not very effective.


There would be a infinite amount of ways to render micro-stamping useless.

Even the guy that invented micro-stamping said it was ineffective.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:56 PM   #42
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Cheap, but ultimately not very effective.


There would be a infinite amount of ways to render micro-stamping useless.

Even the guy that invented micro-stamping said it was ineffective.
Why would it be ineffective?
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Why would it be ineffective?
I will just cut and paste from Wiki:

Claims made by the opponents of the technology include:

Stamped casing can only be traced to the last registered owner, not to the person who used the gun when the casings were stamped. In the case of a stolen gun, as is the case for most firearms used in crime, the stamped case would not lead to the criminal.

Unscrupulous individuals could collect discarded brass from a firing range and salt crime scenes with microstamped cases, thereby providing false evidence against innocent people and increasing the workload for investigators.[11]

High costs for testing the efficacy of the technique must be passed on to customers, increasing the cost of firearms for those who obtain them legally.[11]

Microstamping is easily defeated.
Diamond coated files are inexpensive and will remove microstamping. One forensic expert performed the task with sandpaper and eliminated the microstamp edges in 30 seconds.

Firing pins are normally replaceable and can be changed with simple tools or without tools.

Firing a large number of rounds will wear down the microstamp.[11]

Marked components such as slides, barrels, firing pins and ejectors are all easily and commonly replaced items.[12]

Microstamping is an immature, sole source technology, and has not been subjected to sufficient independent testing. Transfer of microstamped marks to the cases is less reliable than proponents claim.[11]

Microstamping would be irrelevant/non-applicable for revolvers as these types of weapons do not automatically eject shell cases.

Ejected casings can be easily collected and removed from a crime scene.

Information from the Justice Department shows only about 10% of violent crimes are committed with firearms. And of those 98% of those guns are unregistered.

Todd Lizotte, the man who patented the technique admits the process is largely ineffective.
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