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Old 04-18-2014, 03:54 PM  
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:55 PM   #61
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SHould probably be it's own thread but I've often wondered why atheists or Jews/Muslims whoever would celebrate Christmas or Easter. They're drenched in Christian theology and imagery. I don't ever celebrate Hannukkah because it's a Jewish holiday. I don't feel left out when they do whatever it is they do. Some argue these holidays are "secular" but how can that be when you walk into a shopping mall and here songs with Jesus in every other verse?


And Easter is pretty well known to everybody in the country what is claimed to have happened. Nobody tomorrow would be asked "What exactly is Easter and why do Americans celebrate it?" and not have any idea what it's about.


When Muslims fast for Rammaddan or whatever, I never clean out my fridge and fast with them. To feel included.
I do with my children because their mom was non denominational Christian and it became a family tradition. It's a great excuse to get them all together at least once a season.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:57 PM   #62
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SHould probably be it's own thread but I've often wondered why atheists or Jews/Muslims whoever would celebrate Christmas or Easter. They're drenched in Christian theology and imagery. I don't ever celebrate Hannukkah because it's a Jewish holiday. I don't feel left out when they do whatever it is they do. Some argue these holidays are "secular" but how can that be when you walk into a shopping mall and here songs with Jesus in every other verse?
So Jews and Muslims celebrating Christmas and Easter is a widespread occurrence? OK.
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:01 PM   #63
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:01 PM   #64
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I do with my children because their mom was non denominational Christian and it became a family tradition. It's a great excuse to get them all together at least once a season.
Well your situation makes sense to me since at least one is and it appears you are indifferent. But for a Jew they really can't celebrate either without it stinging, or a Muslim on Easter since they believe when he was crucified he didn't die and of course didn't subsequently rise.
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I do love me some well done gospel music. My sister shared this on FB a bit ago. Seems appropriate.

Agreed. Nothing better than some good old Gospel music to sooth the soul.

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Old 04-20-2014, 09:45 AM   #66
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You seem sincere so I probably shouldn't have been so aggressive, and again, no offense to your daughter, but those kind of prayers (after some accomplishment) just often seem inappropriate.
No offense taken Cosmo. You have a great day and I hope it's as nice where you are as it is here in Southern Indiana. It's 70 degrees and sunny here, just gorgeous.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:46 AM   #67
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SHould probably be it's own thread but I've often wondered why atheists or Jews/Muslims whoever would celebrate Christmas or Easter. They're drenched in Christian theology and imagery. I don't ever celebrate Hannukkah because it's a Jewish holiday. I don't feel left out when they do whatever it is they do. Some argue these holidays are "secular" but how can that be when you walk into a shopping mall and here songs with Jesus in every other verse?


And Easter is pretty well known to everybody in the country what is claimed to have happened. Nobody tomorrow would be asked "What exactly is Easter and why do Americans celebrate it?" and not have any idea what it's about.


When Muslims fast for Rammaddan or whatever, I never clean out my fridge and fast with them. To feel included.
You answered your own question. For many it's just as much of a social tradition thing as a religious thing. No different than an atheist going to a church for a wedding ceremony.
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You answered your own question. For many it's just as much of a social tradition thing as a religious thing. No different than an atheist going to a church for a wedding ceremony.
what's this?

atheists in CHURCH??

the hell you say...
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You answered your own question. For many it's just as much of a social tradition thing as a religious thing. No different than an atheist going to a church for a wedding ceremony.
Why is it a social thing? Why would a non-Christian view a religious holiday as a social event, after all none of us celebrate Ramaddan or Hanukkah. Also your church example is off because the atheist goes to the church at others' request (who ostensibly do believe). If an atheist himself has a wedding in a church then yes: that would be odd. And many don't anymore, do they?
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Atheists are always welcome in a church. Where better to hear the word and enjoy the love of Christ. For that matter many Christians have Jewish friends who share those time of faith together. We can celebrate a Jews belief and their faith as well they can and do ours. Celebration of Hanukkah is often shared by Christians invited to Jewish homes.

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Why is it a social thing? Why would a non-Christian view a religious holiday as a social event, after all none of us celebrate Ramaddan or Hanukkah. Also your church example is off because the atheist goes to the church at others' request (who ostensibly do believe). If an atheist himself has a wedding in a church then yes: that would be odd. And many don't anymore, do they?
good god you're stupid...

go to church, that might help you more than your incessant babble about things you don't understand...

seriously, go to church, right now...
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Why is it a social thing? Why would a non-Christian view a religious holiday as a social event, after all none of us celebrate Ramaddan or Hanukkah. Also your church example is off because the atheist goes to the church at others' request (who ostensibly do believe). If an atheist himself has a wedding in a church then yes: that would be odd. And many don't anymore, do they?
Odd question. It's a social thing because a large enough portion of society participates to make it so. Also, I have many Christian friends who celebrate Ramadan and Hanukkah with their friends of other religions. Believe it or not, some people can have close friends who share a different religion.
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Why is it a social thing? Why would a non-Christian view a religious holiday as a social event, after all none of us celebrate Ramaddan or Hanukkah. Also your church example is off because the atheist goes to the church at others' request (who ostensibly do believe). If an atheist himself has a wedding in a church then yes: that would be odd. And many don't anymore, do they?
There are Christians, and there are also people who live in a largely Christian culture.
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good god you're stupid...

go to church, that might help you more than your incessant babble about things you don't understand...

seriously, go to church, right now...
He is utterly worthless. In a thread that should be nothing more than people of a similar beliefs celebrating a day they view as sacred he and Killer Clown want to drag it into a debate with bait posts. I enjoy the different holidays even though I do not follow whatever religious meaning attached to them. I have wished people Happy Easter today as well as Merry Christmas on the 25th of December There are plenty of threads here to engage in debate. I will never understand why some people from both sides insist on being jerks all the time. Sometimes it is nice just to enjoy times that bring families together for whatever the reason may be~
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