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TOPEKA, Kan. — If expanding the guest list to include Michelle Obama at graduation for high school students in the Kansas capital city means fewer seats for friends and family, some students and their parents would prefer the first lady not attend.

A furor over what the Topeka school district considers an honor has erupted after plans were announced for Obama to address a combined graduation ceremony for five area high schools next month an 8,000-seat arena. For some, it was the prospect of a tight limit on the number of seats allotted to each graduate. For others, it was the notion that Obama’s speech, tied to the 60th anniversary of the US Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education outlawing segregation in schools, would overshadow the student’s big day.

“I’m a single mother who has raised him for 18 years by myself,” said Tina Hernandez, parent of Topeka High School senior Dauby Knight. “I’ve told him education is the only way out. This is one of the biggest days of their lives. They’ve taken the glory and shine from the children and put on Mrs. Obama. She doesn’t know our kids.”

Hernandez was among the parents and students who spoke Thursday at a school board meeting and urged district officials to reconsider their decision to invite Obama. Ron Harbaugh, spokesman for the Topeka school district, said Friday discussions were under way to work out the logistics and planning for the event, including how many tickets each family would be allotted.

“We will have a clearer picture of what’s going on,” Harbaugh said.
Harbaugh said officials asked the president or first lady to speak at graduation as a tie-in with the anniversary of the Brown decision, which outlawed school segregation. The district plans to place a priority on seating students and their families, and could broadcast the event to an overflow room at a hotel adjacent to the graduation arena for those unable to find a seat inside.
That’s not good enough for Taylor Gifford, 18, who started an online petition Thursday evening to urge the district to reconsider its plans. She and the more than 1,200 people who had signed it expressed concern that Obama’s visit would limit the seating options for family and friends.
“I really would like it to have a peaceful solution, but there is so much misinformation going on,” Gifford said.

Gifford said her initial reaction to the news was excitement, saying she was “freaking out” about the prospect of the first lady speaking at graduation. When rumors of limited tickets surfaced, Gifford felt like the focus was being shifted from the students to Obama.

“People think it’s a great opportunity, but it’s the graduates’ time. They are getting that diploma that they worked so hard for,” Gifford said. “Families are feeling that they are being cheated out of the loved ones special day.”

Abbey Rubottom, 18, a Topeka High senior, described herself as a “die-hard Democrat” but doesn’t like the idea of Obama sharing the stage with graduates.
“No disrespect for the first lady, and it’s amazing that she wants to come speak, I just think it doesn’t belong at graduation,” Rubottom said.

Rubottom suggested separate ceremonies with Obama speaking at one and the address being replayed at the other.

Some people have said bringing in the first lady politicizes the graduation. Others have suggested that if she wants to mark the Brown anniversary, she could just visit the historic site that commemorates the decision, which is just few blocks from the graduation venue.
The Brown site is housed in a former all-black school where the lead plaintiff’s daughter and another plaintiff’s child in the desegregation case were students. It tells the story of the 1954 Supreme Court decision.

Messages seeking comment from the first lady’s office in Washington were not immediately returned Friday.
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Old 04-19-2014, 04:09 PM   #16
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Unfortunately hispanic graduation rate is only about 65% right now, which means it should be emphasized within their communities. It's not emphasized much in their home country.

I can't speak for them, but for many people graduating high school is not as easy as it was for you. I don't really want to speak to your background, but I think it's suffice to say you don't have a clue what it's like to be a minority born to a impoverished family. If their mothers want to use a hallmark like 'graduation' to ensure their kids take a focus on education so they can lead them to a better life, what the **** reason is there for you to be so bothered by it?

Is that true? Im surprised with the strong family values older Hispanics had. The church and family was very important and in years past Hispanic families were excellent citizens. Has the decline in values come with the increase in illegals and the drug culture? Economics have no correlation with loss of the lack of faith in peoples lives. Even in the poorest of south American cultures the Church maintains a strong influence. We should hope that the hispanic community can find direction before this sort of education failures bring them down.
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There is no conservative Hispanic culture, it was a myth the rich donor class of the GOP put on the conservative base to allow illegal labor that benefited only those rich donors. Church attendance is lower and abortion rates are higher in Mexico than the US
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Old 04-19-2014, 04:19 PM   #18
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There is no conservative Hispanic culture, it was a myth the rich donor class of the GOP put on the conservative base to allow illegal labor that benefited only those rich donors. Church attendance is lower and abortion rates are higher in Mexico than the US
In all due respect I believe you are full of shit on this.
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"A furor over what the Topeka school district considers an honor has erupted after plans were announced for Obama to address a combined graduation ceremony for five area high schools next month an 8,000-seat arena."


Hell, that wouldn't even hold her entourage would it?
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Old 04-19-2014, 04:36 PM   #20
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What the hell does Michelle Obama have to say to anyone, anyway? How to work a do-nothing job? How to marry someone politically ambitious? How to not be proud of your country unless your husband gets elected president? What sage advice are we to look for when she opens her royal mouth?
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There is no conservative Hispanic culture, it was a myth the rich donor class of the GOP put on the conservative base to allow illegal labor that benefited only those rich donors. Church attendance is lower and abortion rates are higher in Mexico than the US
Why do you feel the need to speak on subjects you clearly have ZERO clue about?

I am beyond tired of your racist ignorant bullshit.
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It would be kind of nice if she were just coming to congratulate the kids...y'know, as the first lady, not the black first lady...but no, there's got to be a race element connected...because everything is about race to liberals and especially this administration.
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Why do you feel the need to speak on subjects you clearly have ZERO clue about?

I am beyond tired of your racist ignorant bullshit.
Disprove it then. That's how debate works. Lobbing out insults is an admission of your failure.
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It would be kind of nice if she were just coming to congratulate the kids...y'know, as the first lady, not the black first lady...but no, there's got to be a race element connected...because everything is about race to liberals and especially this administration.
They use it as a weapon and a shield.
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Unfortunately hispanic graduation rate is only about 65% right now, which means it should be emphasized within their communities. It's not emphasized much in their home country.

I can't speak for them, but for many people graduating high school is not as easy as it was for you. I don't really want to speak to your background, but I think it's suffice to say you don't have a clue what it's like to be a minority born to a impoverished family. If their mothers want to use a hallmark like 'graduation' to ensure their kids take a focus on education so they can lead them to a better life, what the **** reason is there for you to be so bothered by it?
Disagree with it not being emphasized within in the community. I've done a ton of volunteer work over the years related to getting graduation rates in Hispanic communities higher.

Glad to see it's on the way up from when I was doing my volunteering (98-04). It was closer to 55% not long ago.
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Disprove it then. That's how debate works. Lobbing out insults is an admission of your failure.
You didn't prove anything to disprove. You asserted something plumbed from the depths of your anus.
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Is that true? Im surprised with the strong family values older Hispanics had. The church and family was very important and in years past Hispanic families were excellent citizens. Has the decline in values come with the increase in illegals and the drug culture? Economics have no correlation with loss of the lack of faith in peoples lives. Even in the poorest of south American cultures the Church maintains a strong influence. We should hope that the hispanic community can find direction before this sort of education failures bring them down.
Yes, it's true and if the rate he cited is correct then it is higher than it used to be.

What's hilarious is what you try to blame it on especially considering you have no idea of what the graduation rate has been historically.
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Yes, it's true and if the rate he cited is correct then it is higher than it used to be.

What's hilarious is what you try to blame it on especially considering you have no idea of what the graduation rate has been historically.
I blame it on family.

Parenting, and a lack of connection with Jesus.

People like you who are impoverished in your soul offer nothing of value to your hispanic youth. Support your drug culture and the illegal life but reap as you sow, You are the slime that breeds the next generation of failure. With any luck hispanic youth finds someone to follow with values. And you are followed by no one.
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In all due respect I believe you are full of shit on this.
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Abortion:
DESPITE BEING LARGELY ILLEGAL, ABORTION IN MEXICO IS FAR MORE PREVALENT THAN IN THE UNITED STATES

Stark Contrast Shows Restrictions Less Related to Incidence Than to Increased Risks for Women

A new national study shows that the number of abortions performed in Mexico increased by one-third between 1990 and 2006 (from 533,000 to 875,000), despite legal restrictions that virtually ban the procedure in most parts of the country. (In 2007, the federal district of Mexico City legalized abortion during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy; the procedure remains illegal in other Mexican states.) Mexico’s 2006 abortion rate (33 per 1,000 women) was more than 40% higher than the abortion rate in the United States (19.4 per 1,000 women), where abortion is broadly legal and available.
https://guttmacher.org/media/nr/2009/02/02/index.html

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43% in America:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_attendance
40% in Mexico (P. 235):
http://etd.library.vanderbilt.edu/av...-dominguez.pdf
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Not only are my statistics correct, I'll add another topic for you to chew on: the decline of Hispanic religiosity among those already living here in the United States :



Hispanic Religion on the Decline – Is American Materialism to Blame?
Posted on August 18, 2011 | By kenchitwood

After conducting their 2011 OmniPoll survey to compare to a similar survey in 1991, the Barna Group released findings that concluded:

The ethnic group that reflected the most profound level of religious change over the last 20 years was Hispanics. Not only did Hispanics see the greatest number of the 14 religious variables shift, but the magnitude of the changes they have experienced dwarfed the changes relevant to white and black adults.

Weekly Hispanic church attendance (33%), adult Sunday school attendance (9%) and Bible reading (30%) all plummeted (21, 19 and 20 percentage points respectively) and a growing number of Hispanics are now unchurched (doubling to 40% in 20 years). Interestingly enough, a growing number of religious Hispanics now attend congregations of 600 or more (from 1% to 24%) and while they may not be as active in church attendance the majority of Hispanics still view religion as important (51%). Nevertheless, even Latino’s general interest in religion dropped 15 points.
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