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Old 04-19-2014, 08:25 AM  
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TOPEKA, Kan. — If expanding the guest list to include Michelle Obama at graduation for high school students in the Kansas capital city means fewer seats for friends and family, some students and their parents would prefer the first lady not attend.

A furor over what the Topeka school district considers an honor has erupted after plans were announced for Obama to address a combined graduation ceremony for five area high schools next month an 8,000-seat arena. For some, it was the prospect of a tight limit on the number of seats allotted to each graduate. For others, it was the notion that Obama’s speech, tied to the 60th anniversary of the US Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education outlawing segregation in schools, would overshadow the student’s big day.

“I’m a single mother who has raised him for 18 years by myself,” said Tina Hernandez, parent of Topeka High School senior Dauby Knight. “I’ve told him education is the only way out. This is one of the biggest days of their lives. They’ve taken the glory and shine from the children and put on Mrs. Obama. She doesn’t know our kids.”

Hernandez was among the parents and students who spoke Thursday at a school board meeting and urged district officials to reconsider their decision to invite Obama. Ron Harbaugh, spokesman for the Topeka school district, said Friday discussions were under way to work out the logistics and planning for the event, including how many tickets each family would be allotted.

“We will have a clearer picture of what’s going on,” Harbaugh said.
Harbaugh said officials asked the president or first lady to speak at graduation as a tie-in with the anniversary of the Brown decision, which outlawed school segregation. The district plans to place a priority on seating students and their families, and could broadcast the event to an overflow room at a hotel adjacent to the graduation arena for those unable to find a seat inside.
That’s not good enough for Taylor Gifford, 18, who started an online petition Thursday evening to urge the district to reconsider its plans. She and the more than 1,200 people who had signed it expressed concern that Obama’s visit would limit the seating options for family and friends.
“I really would like it to have a peaceful solution, but there is so much misinformation going on,” Gifford said.

Gifford said her initial reaction to the news was excitement, saying she was “freaking out” about the prospect of the first lady speaking at graduation. When rumors of limited tickets surfaced, Gifford felt like the focus was being shifted from the students to Obama.

“People think it’s a great opportunity, but it’s the graduates’ time. They are getting that diploma that they worked so hard for,” Gifford said. “Families are feeling that they are being cheated out of the loved ones special day.”

Abbey Rubottom, 18, a Topeka High senior, described herself as a “die-hard Democrat” but doesn’t like the idea of Obama sharing the stage with graduates.
“No disrespect for the first lady, and it’s amazing that she wants to come speak, I just think it doesn’t belong at graduation,” Rubottom said.

Rubottom suggested separate ceremonies with Obama speaking at one and the address being replayed at the other.

Some people have said bringing in the first lady politicizes the graduation. Others have suggested that if she wants to mark the Brown anniversary, she could just visit the historic site that commemorates the decision, which is just few blocks from the graduation venue.
The Brown site is housed in a former all-black school where the lead plaintiff’s daughter and another plaintiff’s child in the desegregation case were students. It tells the story of the 1954 Supreme Court decision.

Messages seeking comment from the first lady’s office in Washington were not immediately returned Friday.
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:48 PM   #61
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Google.

Its no secret what she said.
Google? I just read a decent-sized article about what she said and it couldn't even bother with saying what it was.

Lemme guess--something completely innocuous that only a bottom-feeding website appealing to drooling right-wing morons would re-cast as "exhorted graduating high schoolers to monitor their families for politically incorrect thoughts and behaviors."
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:52 PM   #62
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Google? I just read a decent-sized article about what she said and it couldn't even bother with saying what it was.

Lemme guess--something completely innocuous that only a bottom-feeding website appealing to drooling right-wing morons would re-cast as "exhorted graduating high schoolers to monitor their families for politically incorrect thoughts and behaviors."
Dont guess, use google. Her quotes are available from any number of sources . Read what the lady said. Then address that, not some story you find lacking. Get the quote, post it, then address the quote. You can do it.
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Dont guess, use google. Her quotes are available from any number of sources . Read what the lady said. Then address that, not some story you find lacking. Get the quote, post it, then address the quote. You can do it.
One source it wasn't available from was the article that spent a good deal of space bitching about it. I guess it will remain a mystery.
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One source it wasn't available from was the article that spent a good deal of space bitching about it. I guess it will remain a mystery.
Its no mystery. Direct your issues with the article if you have issues. Otherwise do the search and see what she said. If you dont know what she said don't try to defend it.
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Its no mystery. Direct your issues with the article if you have issues. Otherwise do the search and see what she said. If you dont know what she said don't try to defend it.
I have mentioned my "issues" with the article, and I guess I'll add that one would have to be an idiot to post such an article.
I will put no effort into searching for the surely diabolical statement that inspired that fine piece of writing.
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I have mentioned my "issues" with the article, and I guess I'll add that one would have to be an idiot to post such an article.
I will put no effort into searching for the surely diabolical statement that inspired that fine piece of writing.
I would have expected no less
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Michelle Obama Would Like Students to Monitor Family Members for Racial Insensitivity

First lady Michelle Obama is encouraging students to monitor their older relatives, friends and co-workers for any racially insensitive comments they might make, and to challenge those comments whenever they’re made.

The first lady spoke on Friday to graduating high school students in Topeka, Kansas, and in remarks released over the weekend, Obama said students need to police family and friends because federal laws can only go so far in stopping racism.


First lady Michelle Obama is encouraging students to patrol their family members for racially insensitive comments. (AP Photo/Jonathan Bachman)

“[O]ur laws may no longer separate us based on our skin color, but nothing in the Constitution says we have to eat together in the lunchroom, or live together in the same neighborhoods,” she said. “There’s no court case against believing in stereotypes or thinking that certain kinds of hateful jokes or comments are funny.”

To address these limitations in the law, Obama asked students to take steps to “drag my generation and your grandparents’ generation along with you” in the fight against racism.

“Maybe that starts simply in your own family, when grandpa tells that off-colored joke at Thanksgiving, or you’ve got an aunt [that] talks about ‘those people,’” she said. “Well, you can politely inform them that they’re talking about your friends.

“Or maybe it’s when you go off to college and you decide to join a sorority or fraternity, and you ask the question, how can we get more diversity in our next pledge class?” she added. “Or maybe it’s years from now, when you’re on the job and you’re the one who asks, do we really have all the voices and viewpoints we need at this table?


“But no matter what you do, the point is to never be afraid to talk about these issues, particularly the issue of race,” she said.

Obama’s remarks focused on race because they were meant to highlight the 60th anniversary of the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision, which said it was unconstitutional for states to establish separate public schools for black and white students.

While Obama praised the student body for being racially diverse, she said segregation is happening again in some parts of the country, as some people are moving away and leaving city schools. She said that is leading to segregation that is as bad as it was decades ago.

“So today, by some measures, our schools are as segregated as they were back when Dr. King gave his final speech,” she said.

Obama originally planned to speak to students on the graduation day, but in late April the White House agreed that she would speak at a “senior recognition day” after students protested her arrival. Many students argued that the first lady’s speech on graduation day would overshadow their graduation and make it harder for students to bring their own families to the ceremony.


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Michelle Obama urges high schoolers to monitor their families' politically incorrect thoughts


In a speech seniors designed to commemorate the US Supreme Court decision that desegregated schools, First Lady Michelle Obama made a statement against racism to high school students that reminded critics of George Orwell’s “1984.”

Obama spoke to graduating high school students from five area high schools at the Topeka, Kan. Senior Recognition Day on May 16, the day before their graduation ceremony and on the eve of the 60th anniversary of the landmark Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision that outlawed segregation in public schools. The court case began in Topeka in 1951.

Obama spoke of the decision by Topeka parents to fight against the notion of “separate but equal” education for their children.

“Now, these were ordinary folks. Most of them were not civil rights activists, and some of them were probably nervous about speaking up, worried they might cause trouble for themselves and their families. And the truth is, while the black schools were far away, the facilities were pretty decent, and the teachers were excellent,” she said. “But eventually, these parents went to court to desegregate their children’s schools because, as one of the children later explained as an adult, she said, ‘We were talking about the principle of the thing’.”

But after touching on the historic ruling and the important anniversary, the president’s wife quickly moved on to reports that segregation is back in the United States’ public schools. “See, many districts in this country have actually pulled back on efforts to integrate their schools, and many communities have become less diverse as folks have moved from cities to suburbs,” Obama admonished. “And even in schools that seem integrated according to the numbers, when you look a little closer, you see students from different backgrounds sitting at separate lunch tables, or tracked into different classes, or separated into different clubs or activities.”

Obama drew parallels between the fight for integration that was supposed to have ended in 1954 and what students face today.

“So, graduates, the truth is that Brown vs. Board of Ed. isn’t just about our history, it’s about our future,” she said. “Because while that case was handed down 60 years ago, Brown is still being decided every single day –- not just in our courts and schools, but in how we live our lives.”

It was then that critics say the first lady veered off into “thoughtcrime,” a term from Orwell’s dystopian novel “1984,” defined as “an instance of unorthodox or controversial thinking, considered as a criminal offense or as socially unacceptable,” according to the Oxford Dictionaries.

“There’s no court case against believing in stereotypes or thinking that certain kinds of hateful jokes or comments are funny. So the answers to many of our challenges today can’t necessarily be found in our laws,” Obama said. “As you go forth, when you encounter folks who still hold the old prejudices because they’ve only been around folks like themselves, when you meet folks who think they know all the answers because they’ve never heard any other viewpoints, it’s up to you to help them see things differently.”

“Maybe that starts simply in your own family, when grandpa tells that off-colored joke at Thanksgiving, or you’ve got an aunt talks about ‘those people’. Well, you can politely inform them that they’re talking about your friends,” Obama continued. “Because this issue is so sensitive, is so complicated, so bound up with a painful history. And we need your generation to help us break through. We need all of you to ask the hard questions and have the honest conversations, because that is the only way we will heal the wounds of the past and move forward to a better future.”

Cheryl Chumley, a reporter for The Washington Times and the author of “Police State USA,” believes the first lady’s remarks as an overreach, and a way to attack people for politically incorrect thinking. “Michelle Obama’s push for kids around the nation to monitor their family members for perceived racist comments is just another way the government seeks to inject itself into an area it doesn’t really belong — the American home,” she told The Daily Caller.

The author cited other examples of politicians and government agencies aligned with the Obama administration singling people out for thinking differently, including Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) attacking the Koch brothers for donating to conservative causes, the administration’s charge against the gun lobby, and the IRS targeting of Tea Party organizations for audits. “Does it get any more police state than that?” Chumley asks.

Pete Kasperowicz at The Blaze agreed. “First lady Michelle Obama is encouraging students to monitor their older relatives, friends and co-workers for any racially insensitive comments they might make, and to challenge those comments whenever they’re made,” he wrote.

So did Jim Treacher at The Daily Caller. “There can be no aspect of your daily life that’s removed from politics. Now you will be monitored by your own children for expressing unapproved opinions,” he wrote. “You’d better watch what you say at the dinner table, Mom and Dad,” he wrote.

Conservative radio host Glenn Beck saw the speech as divisive. “Michelle Obama gave a speech where… they’re worried about segregation again, and I don’t think that that was something that any of us worried about six years ago,” Beck said on his show. “Was anybody on the, ‘Hey, we might all be segregated again?’ I don’t know. It’s strange how their policies to bring us all together is just driving a stake in our heart and a wedge between all of us.”

But not everyone saw the first lady’s remarks as insidious. “Mrs. Obama talked about Brown V. Board in a way nobody else could or would. It's great not to be encumbered with the thoughts of reelection and campaign,” a Daily Kos member wrote. “There is no greater truth with her conclusion in today's America, and what we must continue to fight.”

Lauren Sherwood, the student who introduced Obama at the event, told the Kansas City Star that the speech was “beautiful” and “everything you could have hoped for in a graduation speech, plus more.”

Other students agreed. “It did really speak to us,” Topeka West High School student Onree Spencer said to the Star. “Even though past generations are hanging on to what they were taught, we need to be able to teach them about our generation.”

Obama was originally to give a combined commencement address for the five area schools on May 17, but parents protested the decision, complaining that the presence of the first lady, her security detail and cadre of staff would limit space for graduates’ families and overshadow a day that is supposed to honor the seniors’, not politics. The White House and the school district came to a compromise to have Obama speak the night before to the five schools, then each school would have its own graduation on Saturday.



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I know HCF's act is to play the "shocked" troll, and apparently yours is to simply be a drooling moron.
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I know HCF's act is to play the "shocked" troll, and apparently yours is to simply be a drooling moron.
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Lol. I can't wait to hear how you view yourself. Might be entertaining.
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You've seen the quotes now Cosmo. Don't just sit there, start debunking.
Um, let's see...how about...What she said is a million miles from what the ridiculous article paraphrased her as saying.

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