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Old 04-24-2014, 05:50 PM  
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The Racism of the Progressive Left

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities.

Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America.

Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant.

Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society?

The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated."

Is her vision being fulfilled today?

http://blackgenocide.org/planned.html
Clive Bundy was wrong. It's Progressive left who markets to blacks to abort their babies and their vision is being fulfilled today. They used the word "negro" for one of their projects. These are the real racists.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:27 PM   #16
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Why would I want to refute the original post? To do so would legitimize an absurd concept. It's not worth it.
Really? Like this quote:

The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated."
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:27 PM   #17
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The website lists the 3% as ALL abortion services. Otherwise, they're lying.

Morning after pills as abortion? GTFO.

However, point taken on the procedures. I misquoted the website and I meant "services" instead of "budget".

Of course they lie. The last thing they want is the facts to come out that they get huge $$ from the federal government, that they don't actually do mammograms at all, and that the preponderance of the babies killed are black.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:29 PM   #18
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Gee, even Cliven Bundy didn't want their babies to be killed. He opposed that.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:32 PM   #19
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Gee, even Cliven Bundy didn't want their babies to be killed. He opposed that.
Keep working that angle.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:34 PM   #20
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I can't. No. We're done here.
Then you are a close minded idiot. You are defining abortion in the narrowest of terms and only place value on the fertilized egg after it has implanted. Other people don't share your view. I also don't share their view but I am not going to dismiss them outright.
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Then you are a close minded idiot. You are defining abortion in the narrowest of terms and only place value on the fertilized egg after it has implanted. Other people don't share your view. I also don't share their view but I am not going to dismiss them outright.
He is a med student faced with the prospect of life under government regulation.

The days of BMWs and 3 day work weeks are gone. Planned Parenthood abortion docs may be the future for the guy. If you can mentally get cool that vacuuming a fetus out after cutting it up is not killing a baby, you can go home at night with a clear conscience.

Its a job. No problem.
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It does beg another question. Or two or three...

what % of the actual number are black babies that they kill?

What % of their total budget comes from Federal Tax dollars?
What begs those questions?
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Keep working that angle.
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What begs those questions?
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He is a med student faced with the prospect of life under government regulation.

The days of BMWs and 3 day work weeks are gone. Planned Parenthood abortion docs may be the future for the guy. If you can mentally get cool that vacuuming a fetus out after cutting it up is not killing a baby, you can go home at night with a clear conscience.

Its a job. No problem.
Actually doctors that wind up doing abortions have pretty much failed as doctors. So they go into abortion work. They're lower rung.

Psychiatrists are considered the least smart in the hierarchy of specialties. Certain specialists are at the top in terms of smarts. I can't remember the order the specialists go in though. The mgr at a medical trade show I attended had a brother who was a medical doctor and he told me this. Don't know how true but it makes sense that some specialties require greater smarts.
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Really? Like this quote:

The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated."
Looks like that quote is in question. Taken from this:

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Here is a well-attested quote from Sanger herself, from her December 10, 1939 letter to eugenics leader Dr. Clarence Gamble:

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

http://egnorance.blogspot.com/2012/0...misquoted.html
With additional context added here, including pdf at the bottom with the source of the quote:

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Actually, the quote you give from Sanger is accurate, but taken out of context. One can get a copy of the letter from the Sophia Smith Collection at Smith College. There is a larger excerpt here though (pdf warning):

"It seems to me from my experience
... in North Carolina, Georgia,
Tennessee and Texas, that while the
colored Negroes [sic] have great respect
for white doctors, they can get
closer to their own members and more
or less lay their cards on the table,
which means their ignorance, superstitions
and doubts."

Within this context it becomes more clear that Sanger was concerned Blacks in the South would falsely think that extermination was the goal of "The Negro Project". As the Charles Lavenza says:

"When the letter is read in its entirety, one can see that Sanger and Gamble did not want
to "exterminate the Negro population."
Rather, Sanger was referring to coping with
the fear of some black people that birth control was the white man's means of reducing
the black population."

It seems that Linda Gordon may have been at the nexus of much of the perceived racism in the Sanger quote, at least according to Lavenza.

Also it should read "population, and the minister". Changing the comma to a period seems to change the tone of the paragraph.

Context is everything.

http://chaztv.squarespace.com/storag...anger%20CV.pdf
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Looks like that quote is in question. Taken from this:



With additional context added here, including pdf at the bottom with the source of the quote:
Oh is this gonna be like your silly homeopathic page you put up that was a farce for a debunking? I am not buying it's a misquote. Not yet anyhow. Snopes tried to do that, unsuccesfully on Norman Thomas and didn't prove a thing.

Here's more context from your first link before your quote where she seems to want to hide "extermination" of the Negro population. Now why would she even be concerned with people thinking that? Especially after you include more of what's in your first link.
That said, the misquotation seems to reflect genuine sentiments that she unambigiously expressed about people who failed to meet her eugenic standards.

Eugenics was utterly and usually explicitly racist. Sanger had a "Negro Project" in which she devoted considerable attention to contraception in the black community and she courted black leaders to support the application of her contraceptive ideology. She also spoke to the Ku Klux Klan on a number of occasions about her contraceptive ideology, and although she did not recount the content of her speeches, it's safe to assume that she did not champion greater "Negro" fertility.

Sanger was a close ally of overt racists. She frequently featured essays by racists and eugenicists in her magazine, the Birth Control Review, of which she was founder and editor. Lothrop Stoddard, who was appointed by Sanger to the board of directors of the Birth Control League, which was later renamed Planned Parenthood, also contributed to Sanger's Birth Control Review. Stoddard wrote in his own book "The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy" that
"We must resolutely oppose both Asiatic permeation of white race-areas and Asiatic inundation of those non-white, but equally non-Asiatic regions inhabited by the really inferior races."
I haven't even got to your second link yet either. The above is enough.
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Then you are a close minded idiot. You are defining abortion in the narrowest of terms and only place value on the fertilized egg after it has implanted. Other people don't share your view. I also don't share their view but I am not going to dismiss them outright.
Like books on embryology and as a result many real embryologists.
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