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Old 05-05-2014, 06:43 AM  
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After local law enforcement unveiled a donated 36,000-pound armored vehicle, the St. Joseph/Buchanan County Special Response Team believed the expanded armored fleet is needed for the safety of Buchanan County.

“I don’t think it’s a need in the sense that ‘We’ve got to have it, got to use it, got to get it out,’ but we need that capability,” said Capt. Tiger Parsons with the Sheriff’s Department and member of the SRT unit. “We have to have the capability to save someone’s life, because the one time we would need it, but didn’t have it, the public would be screaming ‘Why didn’t those deputies go in?’”

Last week, the Sheriff’s Department received a $700,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle, or MRAP, through a military surplus program. The large, demilitarized vehicle was decommissioned and became a part of a U.S. Department of Defense program that designates vehicles available to local law enforcement across the country.

Expanding the fleet

The MRAP is not the first armored vehicle designated to the St. Joseph Police Department, Buchanan County Sheriff’s Department or jointly used by the SRT unit.

In March, the police purchased a tactical, armored vehicle named the Bearcat to protect officers, victims and other parties in critical situations. At the cost of more than $300,000, Mr. Parsons said the Bearcat is an offensive tool, but has yet to be used in any local operation.

“The Bearcat has offense capabilities that the MRAP does not,” Mr. Parsons said. “Another big difference is that the Bearcat is a lot more maneuverable.”

Recently, SRT members were notified of the MRAP availability and traveled to Texas to drive the vehicle back to Buchanan County. Although much larger than the typical vehicle, Mr. Parsons said the new, defensive vehicle has one simple purpose – safety.

“The MRAP is basically just a big chunk of rolling armor and it doesn’t have any weapons or any offensive capabilities,” he said. “It is merely capable of moving officers, civilians, injured people or, you name it, through an area.”
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:16 AM   #16
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The first line of the article says it was "donated".
What about the one that cost $300,00.00? I bet the other one wasn't just free either. Could have been but there is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:20 AM   #17
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What about the one that cost $300,00.00? I bet the other one wasn't just free either. Could have been but there is no such thing as a free lunch.
No, the other one (Bearcat) cost $300,000. It sounds like the Bearcat fills a different role than the free(ish?) MRAP.

Why don't you think it's free? It's cheaper for the DoD to give away their old items than it is to scrap them.

Of course there will be operational and maintenance costs associated with the MRAP.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:24 AM   #18
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What about the one that cost $300,00.00? I bet the other one wasn't just free either. Could have been but there is no such thing as a free lunch.
This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenco_BearCat

That is just a standard SWAT vehicle, and yes they paid for that one.

The DoD vehicle was completely free.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:33 AM   #19
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...but seriously, WTF would they need this?
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:04 PM   #20
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:43 PM   #21
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I know you are sarcastic...

...but seriously, WTF would they need this?
I don't know. Myabe they don't need it. Maybe they just want it.
Seems to me like anxiety over the scary car is akin to anxiety over scary-looking guns.

“The MRAP is basically just a big chunk of rolling armor and it doesn’t have any weapons or any offensive capabilities,” he said. “It is merely capable of moving officers, civilians, injured people or, you name it, through an area.”
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:54 PM   #22
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I don't know. Myabe they don't need it. Maybe they just want it.
Seems to me like anxiety over the scary car is akin to anxiety over scary-looking guns.

“The MRAP is basically just a big chunk of rolling armor and it doesn’t have any weapons or any offensive capabilities,” he said. “It is merely capable of moving officers, civilians, injured people or, you name it, through an area.”
It's for getting the Chiefs' front office out of Arrowhead after they pick an OT in the first round...
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The first line of the article says it was "donated".
Donated by the Federal Government….so thank you for giving this to St Joe!!!
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Man is it ever loaded with them. 40 years ago not so much but last few times I've been there I could have used this vehicle.
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This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenco_BearCat

That is just a standard SWAT vehicle, and yes they paid for that one.

The DoD vehicle was completely free.
There is a current grant program for law enforcement agencies. There is no cost to the grant recipients. Our local university PD got a free Humvee a few months ago.
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