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Old 05-05-2014, 07:54 PM  
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County In Virginia To Consider Regulating Group Assembly In Private Homes

Group Assembly in Residential Dwellings



Over the last several years, there have been complaints from residents regarding frequent and large gatherings at neighborhood homes. These gatherings can create parking, noise, and other concerns for the neighborhood. Although occasional, large gatherings - such as private parties, house concerts, religious meetings and social clubs - are expected and permissible activities at a home, gatherings that occur on a regular basis involving numerous people can detract from the residential nature of a neighborhood because most residential structures and neighborhoods are not designed to accommodate such events.

Accordingly, it is recommended that language be added to the Zoning Ordinance to define what is a permissible "group assembly," and when associated with a residence, when such a group assembly is an appropriate "accessory use." Currently, the Zoning Ordinance does not identify guidelines for the frequency or scale at which group assembly is considered to be a permitted accessory use to a dwelling. Without such specificity, managing and addressing impacts of these large, frequent gatherings becomes problematic, and the County is limited in its ability to respond to neighborhood concerns.

On February 18, 2014, Zoning Administration and Code Compliance staff presented the Board of Supervisors' Development Process Committee (Committee) with draft Zoning Ordinance text that limits the number of persons and frequency of large gatherings at a home. The Committee requested feedback from residents on the proposed text, and to that end, a series of open community dialogues are scheduled for this purpose as follows:
These community meetings will also address proposed revisions to the Noise Ordinance. The results of this community feedback for both issues will be discussed with the Committee at a future meeting.



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http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/zoning/groupassembly/

From Watchdog:

A plan to ban “frequent and large gatherings at neighborhood homes” is a lawsuit waiting to happen, a Fairfax County supervisor predicts.
Officials will get an idea Wednesday when public-comment hearings begin in Virginia’s most populous county.

“I believe the county is risking a lawsuit and/or aconstitution challenge by interfering with peoples’ right to assemble,” Supervisor Pat Herrity said in a statement.

The proposed zoning ordinance limits “group assembly” at residences to 49 people a day. Such gatherings “shall not occur more frequently than three times in any 40-day period.


I quoted that article because the proposed ordinance is in a PDF that I can't get to copy-and-paste correctly.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:51 PM   #46
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Fortunately our HOA restricts most things like people wanting to host large meetings in their homes several times a month, bringing down home values, and then attempting to say that everyone else needs to be invonvenienced because trying to prevent it is somehow a violation of their rights.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:54 PM   #47
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If I was being a jackass and regularly hosting large meetings of 49 people or more I would fully expect people in the neighborhood to try to legally stop my inconsiderate behavior.
That is because you are communist or something.

Even beyond the noise and general disruptive conditions of some frequent large gatherings, I don't think it is unreasonable for people to also get concerned with these frequent events causing property damage of both the intentional and unintentional variety.
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If you live in an area that doesn't clearly define group assembly and the size allowed apparently you can.
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If I was being a jackass and regularly hosting large meetings of 49 people or more I would fully expect people in the neighborhood to try to legally stop my inconsiderate behavior.
blaise has turned into a Nazi-loving muslim communist amerika-hating left winger!
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blaise has turned into a Nazi-loving muslim communist amerika-hating left winger!
Our HOA keeps home values high by not letting Democrats buy houses in the subdivision.
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Fortunately our HOA restricts most things like people wanting to host large meetings in their homes several times a month, bringing down home values, and then attempting to say that everyone else needs to be invonvenienced because trying to prevent it is somehow a violation of their rights.
How long can you have your garage door up? Do they outlaw lawn art? Set dates when Christmas lights can be on and when they must be removed? All house colors approved by a committee? In some east coast cities people cannot cut down a tree or do major tree trimming without a permit from the city arborist. Right on!

Ive never lived where an HOA was ever successful but that was years ago in my urban years. Always seemed like a bunch busybody types who seemed to know what was good for everyone else and had this need to impose their ideas.
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How long can you have your garage door up? Do they outlaw lawn art? Set dates when Christmas lights can be on and when they must be removed? All house colors approved by a committee? In some east coast cities people cannot cut down a tree or do major tree trimming without a permit from the city arborist. Right on!

Ive never lived where an HOA was ever successful but that was years ago in my urban years. Always seemed like a bunch busybody types who seemed to know what was good for everyone else and had this need to impose their ideas.
When they built our neighborhood they actually required each lot have at least one large size tree in it. The horror!
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How long can you have your garage door up? Do they outlaw lawn art? Set dates when Christmas lights can be on and when they must be removed? All house colors approved by a committee? In some east coast cities people cannot cut down a tree or do major tree trimming without a permit from the city arborist. Right on!

Ive never lived where an HOA was ever successful but that was years ago in my urban years. Always seemed like a bunch busybody types who seemed to know what was good for everyone else and had this need to impose their ideas.
I don't know about most of them but I do know you have to have two trees on the property, so if you cut one down there still has to be two.

But I don't care. I've lived in cities like Rochester where people can put chain link fences around their front yards, have furniture all over the yard, have weeds growing two feet high. I don't want to put up with someone next door that doesn't give a rat's ass about home value.
I'd rather live where people are committed to keeping values high. My neighborhood is nice.
The only notice I ever got was for some weeds around my tree ring out front. I thought it was kind of silly, but whatever.
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I don't know about most of them but I do know you have to have two trees on the property, so if you cut one down there still has to be two.

But I don't care. I've lived in cities like Rochester where people can put chain link fences around their front yards, have furniture all over the yard, have weeds growing two feet high. I don't want to put up with someone next door that doesn't give a rat's ass about home value.
I'd rather live where people are committed to keeping values high. My neighborhood is nice.
The only notice I ever got was for some weeds around my tree ring out front. I thought it was kind of silly, but whatever.
Who goes around looking at other peoples tree rings? What is the penalty for a weed in your yard?
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Waitwaitwait. Am I to understand that you guys don't have HOA's in the Midwest?

Because if so, I'd say I'll be heading that way and never looking back, if I wasn't already heading that way and never looking back.
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