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Old 05-06-2014, 09:57 AM  
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Dorsey loves the box safeties in this draft

@TerezPaylor: One thing to keep in mind about a Berry trade: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey told me Friday that there are a lot of good box safeties in this draft


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Old 05-06-2014, 10:41 AM   #16
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It always amazes me how people believe this pre draft crap.
Posting a thread about it isn't believing it. It's bringing up a football topic to discuss.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:42 AM   #17
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:45 AM   #18
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Posting a thread about it isn't believing it. It's bringing up a football topic to discuss.
I was referring to the multiple posters seemingly freaking out. In reality though, if we draft a 'box saftey' then CP's obsession of playing Eric at FS would be far more likely than him being traded.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:48 AM   #19
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It always amazes me how people believe this pre draft crap.
Yep. Same shit every year...
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:57 AM   #20
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What an off-season!

Not extending Alex Smith.
Trading Eric Berry (although I can see the logic).
Trading Brandon Flowers.
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:02 AM   #21
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What an off-season!

Not extending Alex Smith.
Trading Eric Berry (although I can see the logic).
Trading Brandon Flowers.
There is no logic in trading Eric Berry. None. Don't even try to rationalize it.

The only reason for trading a young, uber talented, fan favorite All-Pro safety is because you're too cheap to pay him what he's worth.

And that's the stupidest reason ever and only a shitty franchise would do such a thing.
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:10 AM   #22
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There is no logic in trading Eric Berry. None. Don't even try to rationalize it.

The only reason for trading a young, uber talented, fan favorite All-Pro safety is because you're too cheap to pay him what he's worth.

And that's the stupidest reason ever and only a shitty franchise would do such a thing.
11 million per for a LB masquerading as a S. I love Eric Berry (no homo) but the fiscal logic is there. For that matter, the logic holds true for Flowers as well. I think it would be a HUGE mistake on both but I can see past the homerism to understand it.

You can get by with average secondary play if you can put pressure on the passer.

IIRC we've covered this ground in another thread somewhere.

Queue "but Denver" posts in 5.4.3.2.1......
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:12 AM   #23
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:13 AM   #24
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11 million per for a LB masquerading as a S. I love Eric Berry (no homo) but the fiscal logic is there. For that matter, the logic holds true for Flowers as well. I think it would be a HUGE mistake on both but I can see past the homerism to understand it.

You can get by with average secondary play if you can put pressure on the passer.

IIRC we've covered this ground in another thread somewhere.

Queue "but Denver" posts in 5.4.3.2.1......
Then guess what you do.....

A. Extend him and lower his cap number.
or
B. Move him to FS, where he is capable of playing.
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Then guess what you do.....

A. Extend him and lower his cap number.
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B. Move him to FS, where he is capable of playing.
a) But how much do you save in the long run by extending a guy who's going to demand all pro money to be a rover-safety that doesn't create turnovers

and

b) What happens if it turns out he's better suited to be an in-the box tackler rather than FS?
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11 million per for a LB masquerading as a S.
I pretty much stopped reading right there.
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a) But how much do you save in the long run by extending a guy who's going to demand all pro money to be a rover-safety that doesn't create turnovers

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b) What happens if it turns out he's better suited to be an in-the box tackler rather than FS?
Why do you assume he isn't going to create turnovers as a FS?
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:18 AM   #29
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a) But how much do you save in the long run by extending a guy who's going to demand all pro money to be a rover-safety that doesn't create turnovers

and

b) What happens if it turns out he's better suited to be an in-the box tackler rather than FS?
You know he won't create turnovers how?
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a) But how much do you save in the long run by extending a guy who's going to demand all pro money to be a rover-safety that doesn't create turnovers

and

b) What happens if it turns out he's better suited to be an in-the box tackler rather than FS?
How do you know he cannot play FS? He was a pretty dang good one in college.
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