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Old 05-07-2014, 11:17 AM  
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More Police nonsense. Father arrested for Speaking Against Sexually Explicit Book

What the??? He violated the 2 minute rule.

You can jump to around 5:00 in the video.




Gilford, NH- A father of a high school student was arrested at a school board meeting Monday night after protesting the school’s sexually explicit required reading assigned to his 9th grade daughter at Gilford High School.

The book in question, ”Nineteen Minutes” by author Jodi Picoult, is about a school shooting taking place in a fictitious New Hampshire town, and it contains themes of student violence, bullying, and sexual aggression. There is one particularly provocative and graphic depiction of violent, drunken sex between two teens in the story on page 313. Click here to read the passage (warning: graphic language and explicit sexual content).

William Baer came to the meeting to voice his opposition to the school’s failure to send home notification alerting parents of the graphic content. “I’m outraged that Gilford High School would require my daughter to read this kind of material,” Baer told the Laconia Daily Sun.

Josh Youssef, a friend of Baer, spoke with Benswann.com about what preceded the school board meeting and Baer’s arrest. Youssef was at Baer’s home when they were talking about a reading assignment given to Baer’s daughter. Youssef opened the book and came across page 313, and they were shocked by the graphic description of rough sex. “His jaw dropped,” Youseff told Benswann.com.

Baer then contacted Principal Peter Sawyer of Gilford High School last Wednesday to arrange a meeting, but was told by Sawyer it would not be possible to meet before the weekend. Baer attended Monday’s meeting to make his concerns known to the school board. There was a police officer present at the meeting, Gilford Lt. James Leach. Youssef said that he had been told by other parents that it’s not common for police to be present at Gilford school board meetings.

The school board meeting allowed for public comment only; no discussion, questions or speaking more than once was permitted.

After Baer spoke for two minutes- the maximum speaking time dictated by the school board- another parent, Joe Wernig, spoke in support of the book’s content. Baer responded to Wernig’s comments, and it was then that he was asked to leave by Leach. When Baer asked if he was going to be arrested, he was escorted from the meeting by Leach and handcuffed before being placed in a police cruiser. After Baer’s arrest, Lt. Leach was not replaced by another officer for the duration of the meeting.



Baer was not the only angry parent at the school board meeting. Another parent, Sarah Carrigan, said that she was “utterly appalled that this was an ‘oversight’”. Baer’s wife, Barbara Baer, shares her husband’s frustration. “They can discuss this some other way,” she said. “They don’t need that kind of imagery.”

“Nineteen Minutes” has been part of Gilford’s 9th grade AP English curriculum since 2007 when it was published. The school issued a statement that concluded the district “will take immediate action to revise these policies to include notification that requires parents to accept controversial material, rather than opt out.” The school sent out a notice stating that the book assigned “depicts high school relationships, some of which are unhealthy.”

Baer told Benswann.com that the school’s notice was only sent out after he went to the principal to discuss it, and that the notice failed to disclose the graphic passage in the book. “I can’t believe the school requires this as reading material,” he said. “There’s no reason to expect this kind of thing.”

While some parents say that this book opens up critical dialogue between parents and their children, Baer noted that when he asked Sawyer to discuss the passage in context with the rest of the book, Sawyer said he was uncomfortable doing so.

In the extended video below, given to Benswann.com by Youssef, Baer is shown being arrested after speaking out. Youssef believes, and the video shows, at minute 5:05 the superintendent signalling Lt. Leach to confront Baer to remove him from the building.



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Old 05-07-2014, 03:46 PM   #106
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I am sure the school board is taking immediate action and not rejecting the claims that the parents did not know the material for the fun of it.
I'm sure Ben Swann attempted to contact the school board about this and just happened to forget to include that he attempted to contact them.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:50 PM   #107
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Exactly what? You didn't answer either of my questions.

I don't care if kids **** like bunnies. The nature of the book is of no consequence to me.

But you're ok with forcing parents to accept controversial curriculum with no option to opt out?

You have so much tolerance for other people's views.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:54 PM   #108
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Exactly what? You didn't answer either of my questions.

I don't care if kids **** like bunnies. The nature of the book is of no consequence to me.

But you're ok with forcing parents to accept controversial curriculum with no option to opt out?

You have so much tolerance for other people's views.
JFC. Read the shit again.

The policy before "super dad" was one that required the parents to opt out.

Now due to "super dad" the school board will require that parents accept that the kid will be exposed to controversial material.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:58 PM   #109
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He was escorted out for not following rules, him contineousely disobeying the officer to get up and leave is why he was arrested.

And I have a feeling the reading list went out at the start of the year. Some parents just like to ignore those things until someone else tells them about it personally. How the **** do you know how to turn to the exact page to be offended by? Second thought, they can all **** off. 2007 is how long it has been required. Maybe pay attention to your kids.
Please tell us all about how you've read every book ever assigned to the children of this country, so you know all about which are a bit too, let's say, advanced for the children of each particular grade.

If you can't do that, kindly shut the **** up until you finally start to understand the point here.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:59 PM   #110
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JFC. Read the shit again.

The policy before "super dad" was one that required the parents to opt out.

Now due to "super dad" the school board will require that parents accept that the kid will be exposed to controversial material.
Even if that's true, (and that is a big if since your comment about what the policy was before super dad is pulled right out of your ass), the current policy requires the parent to have no say in what their kid is exposed to. Which is a pretty big shit they are taking on personal liberty.

So I guess as long as you agree with a policy it's ok to force it on everyone else. It's easy to spot the hypocrites.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:01 PM   #111
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Even if that's true, (and that is a big if since your comment about what the policy was before super dad is pulled right out of your ass), the current policy requires the parent to have no say in what their kid is exposed to. Which is a pretty big shit they are taking on personal liberty.

So I guess as long as you agree with a policy it's ok to force it on everyone else. It's easy to spot the hypocrites.
FFS learn how to read.

THE POLICY BEFORE THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING REQUIRED THAT PARENTS OPT OUT OF CONTROVERSIAL MATERIAL IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THEIR KIDS EXPOSED TO IT.

THE NEW POLICY ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE REQUIRES THAT PARENTS ACCEPT THAT THEIR CHILD WILL READ CONTROVERSIAL MATERIAL.

JFC how hard is that to understand?
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:03 PM   #112
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Exactly what? You didn't answer either of my questions.

I don't care if kids **** like bunnies. The nature of the book is of no consequence to me.

But you're ok with forcing parents to accept controversial curriculum with no option to opt out?

You have so much tolerance for other people's views.
Here's a better approach. If a parent wants to have their kid opt out, the parent has to read and submit the book report themselves with a commentary on why, when taken in the full context of the book, their child should be protected from it.

Oh, and if the parent doesn't turn in each report before they get to it in the class...too bad.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:06 PM   #113
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FFS learn how to read.

THE POLICY BEFORE THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING REQUIRED THAT PARENTS OPT OUT OF CONTROVERSIAL MATERIAL IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THEIR KIDS EXPOSED TO IT.

THE NEW POLICY ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE REQUIRES THAT PARENTS ACCEPT THAT THEIR CHILD WILL READ CONTROVERSIAL MATERIAL.

JFC how hard is that to understand?
I understand it perfectly. It's written in English and the use of caps locks is only mildly annoying.

Your sentence about the policy before the school board meeting is something you made up. It might be true, but it's not mentioned in that article whatsoever.

Your sentence about the new policy requires parents to accept something even if they don't want to. Which is a big **** you to personal liberty, and the fact that you think it's ok tells me a hell of a lot about you.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:11 PM   #114
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Please tell us all about how you've read every book ever assigned to the children of this country, so you know all about which are a bit too, let's say, advanced for the children of each particular grade.

If you can't do that, kindly shut the **** up until you finally start to understand the point here.
No, just like most ignorant parents, you just passin by in your kids lives without actually looking at them.

A Book, is what pisses you off. Not the fact that your kids are sexting each other. Playing console games that have visual sex acts, murder or drugs. Allow them to watch television with the same acts. Nope, words is what do it.

Then lets add the fact this has been read in the school since 2007. It went out on the read list at the start of the year. Nope. It is outrageous.

And if you act like the prick dad that cannot follow directions given calmly beforehand and during his tirade to respect others speaking; maybe we know why some of you are sounding so idiotic and would get arrested in public.

And smart parents do not have to read every ****ing book on the list. There is google, or parents that read books.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:17 PM   #115
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I understand it perfectly. It's written in English and the use of caps locks is only mildly annoying.

Your sentence about the policy before the school board meeting is something you made up. It might be true, but it's not mentioned in that article whatsoever.

Your sentence about the new policy requires parents to accept something even if they don't want to. Which is a big **** you to personal liberty, and the fact that you think it's ok tells me a hell of a lot about you.
Apparently you don't understand the phrase "rather than" and the implication that it carries.

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“Nineteen Minutes” has been part of Gilford’s 9th grade AP English curriculum since 2007 when it was published. The school issued a statement that concluded the district “will take immediate action to revise these policies to include notification that requires parents to accept controversial material, rather than opt out.”
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:23 PM   #116
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Exactly what? You didn't answer either of my questions.

I don't care if kids **** like bunnies. The nature of the book is of no consequence to me.

But you're ok with forcing parents to accept controversial curriculum with no option to opt out?

You have so much tolerance for other people's views.
They, literally, had the option to opt out. Stop lying.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:24 PM   #117
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No, just like most ignorant parents, you just passin by in your kids lives without actually looking at them.

A Book, is what pisses you off. Not the fact that your kids are sexting each other. Playing console games that have visual sex acts, murder or drugs. Allow them to watch television with the same acts. Nope, words is what do it.

Then lets add the fact this has been read in the school since 2007. It went out on the read list at the start of the year. Nope. It is outrageous.

And if you act like the prick dad that cannot follow directions given calmly beforehand and during his tirade to respect others speaking; maybe we know why some of you are sounding so idiotic and would get arrested in public.

And smart parents do not have to read every ****ing book on the list. There is google, or parents that read books.
You're making a lot of ridiculous assumptions. Some parents would choose to prevent this sort of thing, in addition to not allowing sexting, violent video games or TV, etc. You seem to be taking this stance that since there are some shitty parents who let their kids play violent games or watch GoT, that we should expose all children to the same things. That's nonsense.
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Apparently you don't understand the phrase "rather than" and the implication that it carries.
I understand the word. It doesn't necessarily tell you what the policy was before. It may be implied, but it could also be shitty writing. That whole paragraph is a pile of shit that is pretty ambiguous about the whole timeline of things.

But again, not my point. Even if it's exactly as you say ... You seem to be perfectly fine with the school telling the parents that they no longer have a say in what their children are exposed to.
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You're making a lot of ridiculous assumptions. Some parents would choose to prevent this sort of thing, in addition to not allowing sexting, violent video games or TV, etc. You seem to be taking this stance that since there are some shitty parents who let their kids play violent games or watch GoT, that we should expose all children to the same things. That's nonsense.
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No, just like most ignorant parents, you just passin by in your kids lives without actually looking at them.

A Book, is what pisses you off. Not the fact that your kids are sexting each other. Playing console games that have visual sex acts, murder or drugs. Allow them to watch television with the same acts. Nope, words is what do it.

Then lets add the fact this has been read in the school since 2007. It went out on the read list at the start of the year. Nope. It is outrageous.

And if you act like the prick dad that cannot follow directions given calmly beforehand and during his tirade to respect others speaking; maybe we know why some of you are sounding so idiotic and would get arrested in public.

And smart parents do not have to read every ****ing book on the list. There is google, or parents that read books.
You don't seem to grasp the purpose behind opt in setups, and that's as polite as I can make this response.

Fish covered a lot of the rest of the stupidity of your post.
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