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Old 05-09-2014, 04:03 PM  
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The Obama administration pointedly told American public schools on Thursday that they must enroll the children of illegal immigrants despite little to nothing in the way of legitimate documentation concerning how old the kids are or where they live.

The lecture came from Attorney General Eric Holder and Education Secretary Arne Duncan, according to a Department of Justice press release obtained by The Daily Caller.

In their joint statement, Holder and Duncan announced updated federal guidance informing officials at taxpayer-funded K-12 schools about new, federally permissible enrollment practices. The updated guidance stresses the need for flexibility in choosing which documents illegal immigrant parents can submit to show a child’s age or whether the child actually even lives within a school’s attendance boundary.

The new guidance specifically stresses that school districts cannot require certain legal documents including a parent’s state-issued driver’s license any time it might prevent a child from enrolling because of a parent’s illegal immigration status.

“The message here is clear,” Duncan said. “Let all children who live in your district enroll in your public schools.”

“Three decades ago, the Supreme Court issued a historic ruling – in the case of Plyler v. Doe – that legislation denying children an education based on immigration status ‘does not comport with fundamental conceptions of justice,’” said Holder in remarks delivered on Thursday.

Plyler v. Doe, a 1982 case, was a class action, filed on behalf of a group of school-aged Mexican children in Smith County, Texas who could not establish that they had been legally admitted to the United States.

Justice William Brennan wrote the Court’s 5-to-4 majority ruling.

The slim majority concluded that a Texas law preventing the children of illegal immigrants from attending public schools was unconstitutional because denying the children basic education contributes to “the creation and perpetuation of a subclass of illiterates within our boundaries.” Thus, The Lone Star State could not show that the law served a “substantial state interest” — the legal lingo for the constitutional test applied in cases involving illegal aliens.

“Sheer incapability or lax enforcement of the laws barring entry into this country, coupled with the failure to establish an effective bar to the employment of undocumented aliens, has resulted in the creation of a substantial ‘shadow population’ of illegal migrants – numbering in the millions – within our borders,” Brennan, a leader of the Court’s liberal wing, wrote.

On Thursday, Holder went on to say that the federal government has “continued to hear troubling reports of actions taken by school districts around the country that have a chilling effect on student enrollment, raising barriers for undocumented children and children from immigrant families who seek to receive the public education to which they are entitled.”

The attorney general said his department will now double down on ensuring that illegal immigrant children are allowed to attend taxpayer-funded American schools.

“Public school districts have an obligation to enroll students regardless of immigration status and without discrimination on the basis of race, color or national origin,” Holder proclaimed. “The Justice Department will do everything it can to make sure schools meet this obligation. We will vigilantly enforce the law to ensure the schoolhouse door remains open to all.”

Holder also invoked Brown v. Board of Education, the landmark 1954 Supreme Court case declaring that state laws establishing separate public schools for black and white students are unconstitutional, in support of the rights of the children of illegal immigrants to attend public schools despite a lack of documentation concerning age or address


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Old 05-09-2014, 04:09 PM   #2
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“Three decades ago, the Supreme Court issued a historic ruling – in the case of Plyler v. Doe – that legislation denying children an education based on immigration status ‘does not comport with fundamental conceptions of justice,’” said Holder in remarks delivered on Thursday.

Justice William Brennan wrote the Court’s 5-to-4 majority ruling.

The slim majority concluded that a Texas law preventing the children of illegal immigrants from attending public schools was unconstitutional because denying the children basic education contributes to “the creation and perpetuation of a subclass of illiterates within our boundaries.” Thus, The Lone Star State could not show that the law served a “substantial state interest” — the legal lingo for the constitutional test applied in cases involving illegal aliens.
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:31 PM   #5
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Schools are generally run by local elected school boards. At some point those boards will say no to the federal dept of education. And when they do the federal level will lose. All politics are local. Bring the heat to local school boards. The backlash will be amazing.
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Back when I was in the school bidness there were shot records, birth certificates, ss numbers, school district resident requirements, not a simple task to enroll a kid in school. So no one is required to provide this information any more?
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Back when I was in the school bidness there were shot records, birth certificates, ss numbers, school district resident requirements, not a simple task to enroll a kid in school. So no one is required to provide this information any more?
Shot records are still required as are birth certificates, they just don't have to be U.S birth certs. SS#'s are requested but not required. Schools still want you to be in a certain district, but you can request to be enrolled in a school that's not in your neighborhood.

And of course they require an address and contact information. The school needs to know how to contact the parents in case of an emergency and they also need to know what district that kid should be going to. The idea that illegals are enrolling their children into school without all of their proper contact information is kinda silly.

Illegal or not, they still care about their children, ffs.
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Schools are generally run by local elected school boards. At some point those boards will say no to the federal dept of education. And when they do the federal level will lose. All politics are local. Bring the heat to local school boards. The backlash will be amazing.
Most school boards are generally filled with people who care about:

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B. Children

The odds that a school board is going to deny a child an education along with cutting themselves from Federal funding is pretty damn slim.

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Shot records are still required as are birth certificates, they just don't have to be U.S birth certs. SS#'s are requested but not required. Schools still want you to be in a certain district, but you can request to be enrolled in a school that's not in your neighborhood.

And of course they require an address and contact information. The school needs to know how to contact the parents in case of an emergency and they also need to know what district that kid should be going to. The idea that illegals are enrolling their children into school without all of their proper contact information is kinda silly.

Illegal or not, they still care about their children, ffs.
I never said anything about caring about kids. I had many battles with parents enrolling students that didn't have the correct paperwork. My hands were tied as the requirements were VERY specific. I can't imagine how it would be if certain items are "optional"
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I never said anything about caring about kids. I had many battles with parents enrolling students that didn't have the correct paperwork. My hands were tied as the requirements were VERY specific. I can't imagine how it would be if certain items are "optional"
Yeah i know what you mean about the parents. I worked at a juvenile court school for two years, so suffice to say, i had to deal with my fair share of shit parents. But yes, Shot records and the like are still required. Birth Certs don't need to be U.S certs. All of the rest of the info is still requested.

Illegals aren't coming over and simply dropping their kids off with no questions asked like Foreverliar's post would lead you to believe.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:21 PM   #11
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Yeah i know what you mean about the parents. I worked at a juvenile court school for two years, so suffice to say, i had to deal with my fair share of shit parents. But yes, Shot records and the like are still required. Birth Certs don't need to be U.S certs. All of the rest of the info is still requested.

Illegals aren't coming over and simply dropping their kids off with no questions asked like Foreverliar's post would lead you to believe.

You sure are wrong a lot.

Texas Weighs Cost of Illegals

Lone Star State debates whether to join other states in filing lawsuit against US government over mandates



THE closer to home the cost of immigration hits, the more volatile the issue becomes.
That's proving true not only in the growing battle between state governors and federal politicians over who will foot the bill, but in the attitudes of Hispanic Texans over how urgently to press for change.

Critics say Washington fails to control borders, yet forces state and local governments to pick up the tab to educate, feed, incarcerate, and provide health care for illegal immigrants.

Most Mexicans living illegally in Texas are believed to reside in border towns from El Paso to Brownsville. Thus, the Rio Grande valley is most affected by the issue.

Hispanic Texans who live along the border are angry that their ever-mounting property taxes pay to educate illegal immigrants, says state Rep. Henry Cuellar (D), who represents the border city of Laredo. ``They just don't feel it's right.''

Funding for Laredo schools comes from local property taxes (48 percent), state funds (46 percent), and federal money (6 percent).

In San Antonio, ``we don't have anybody crossing over just to attend our schools,'' says Texas Sen. Gregory Luna (D). And the undocumented workers who 10 years ago would congregate openly in search of jobs have been chased out of sight by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) or have gotten legal residence under the 1986 amnesty law. As a result, illegal immigration is a nonissue in that city 150 miles from the border.

But in Brownsville, ``we see the cars cross [the border] daily, drop off their kids at school, and then go back,'' says Joe Garcia, chief of staff for state Sen. Eddie Lucio (D). He estimates that the 40,000-student Brownsville school district pays $20 million annually to educate children who don't live there or who live there illegally.

``The honest truth is: The ones that complain the loudest are the poor,'' adds Paul Cowen, administrative assistant in Mr. Lucio's office. ``I hear it a lot. It's depriving their children of an education.''

Some Hispanic Texans would even support an amendment to the US Constitution denying automatic citizenship to US-born children of illegal immigrants, Mr. Cuellar says. But state Sen. Judith Zaffirini (D) says such an amendment - proposed by California Gov. Pete Wilson (R) - goes too far. ``People who are born in this country are Americans,'' she says.

Calls for change

Spurred by public outrage over unfunded mandates from the federal government, President Clinton on Friday asked Congress to provide $350 million to help pay for states to imprison illegal-alien criminals. The national cost is closer to $600 million, not counting prison construction costs.

Governor Wilson said Mr. Clinton's action would not deter him from filing immigration-related lawsuits against the United States government. Announcement of the first are expected this week. California alone spends $400 million on illegal-immigrant inmates and $1.8 billion on all illegal aliens.

On a recent visit to San Diego, Texas Senator Luna said he found tension ``you could cut with a knife.'' An Anglo told American-born Mr. Luna to ``get out of my country,'' he said.

Leticia Vasquez, a spokeswoman for Gov. Ann Richards (D), notes that the issue is not as politically explosive in Texas as it is in California. Texas doesn't have the Golden State's economic problems.

And only 9 percent of Texans are foreign-born, compared to 24 percent of Californians. Texas spends $166 million

Texas officials estimate that the state spends $166 million annually on the 550,000 illegal immigrants - almost all Mexican - who make up 3 percent of the state population.

Elena Thompson, Refugee Services director in Austin, says when undocumented workers are picked up by the INS, they usually waive deportation hearings and are bused to Mexico. Soon they make another attempt to get into Texas. ``The border is pretty porous,'' she says.

Mr. Lucio wrote to Governor Richards to urge that Texas join the lawsuit Florida filed April 12 against the federal government. Illegal aliens cost Florida $740 million a year. The Texas governor is awaiting a list of options from her state attorney general.

Other states are also facing this decision. Arizona, which spends $100 million to $200 million on illegal immigrants, is considering joining either the Florida or California actions, says Douglas Cole, a spokesman for Gov. Fife Symington (R) of Arizon To sue or not to sue

Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar (R) plans to work with Washington rather than sue over the $140 million that state spends on illegal immigrants, press secretary Mike Lawrence says.

New Jersey is ``looking very seriously'' at suing, says Carl Golden, a spokesman for Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R). That state spends more than $200 million on illegal immigrants.

But lawsuits don't get quick results. New York sued two years ago over the cost of incarcerating illegals. It plans to file another suit to recover education and health-care portions of the $970 million it spends annually on illegal immigrants.


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Old 05-09-2014, 10:35 PM   #12
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The children of illegal aliens (anchor babies) have bankrupted the state of California

January 20, 2010

In 2009, San Bernardino County spent $64 million providing welfare benefits to U.S.-born children of illegal aliens.


According to county records, during a typical month, close to 15,000 offspring of illegal aliens received either welfare payments or food stamps in 2009. Over 11,000 of those children received both forms of assistance.


Assemblyman Steve Knight, R-Palmdale, told the San Bernardino Sun: "This is a huge burden on our state. Obviously, these kids are U.S. citizens and that's fine. But when you look at it, these parents should have never been here in the first place."


Raymond Herrera, founder and president of We The People California's Crusader, said: "The American people are fed up with illegal aliens depleting our tax dollars by overrunning our schools, our hospitals and our welfare system."

While $64 million more than the county can afford particularly during the current deep recession, it is but a drop in the bucket, when you consider what the entire state of California is paying-out to ‘anchor babies’ and their illegal alien parents.


In August 2009, Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich made public the staggering amount which the taxpayers spend on illegal aliens, living in L.A. County. Last June alone, the county paid out $48 million to the children of illegal aliens, an increase of $10 million over June 2007.


$26 million of that total came in the form of food stamps, while another $22 million was given to the illegal alien families in welfare checks.


Assuming that June was a typical month for 2009, Los Angeles County spent nearly $600 million on those two programs last year alone. That is in addition to the more than $1 billion that the county spends annually on the medical treatment, education, emergency services, and incarceration of illegal aliens.


These figures explain why not only L.A. County, but the entire state of California are now in financial ruin. Supervisor Michael Antonovich told reporters that illegal aliens continue to have a “catastrophic impact on Los Angeles County taxpayers.”


In 2003, the American Southwest saw 77 hospitals enter bankruptcy due to unpaid medical bills incurred by illegal aliens. A staggering 84 hospitals in California alone, have been forced to close their doors because of the growing crisis. Hospitals which manage to remain open, pass the unpaid costs onto the rest of us, which translates into more out-of-pocket expenses and higher insurance premiums for Americans.


With rising unemployment, huge trade deficits due to the loss of our manufacturing base, and a soaring national debt, we simply cannot afford to pay the bills for this nation’s illegal alien population. We can no longer accept elected representatives who choose to better represent a foreign national population, rather than those of us who actually pay their salaries.


Illegal immigration is slowly but surely destroying this nation.
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