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Old 05-09-2014, 03:03 PM  
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White House Tells Public Schools To Enroll Illegals Despite Lack Of Age Or Address Ev

The Obama administration pointedly told American public schools on Thursday that they must enroll the children of illegal immigrants despite little to nothing in the way of legitimate documentation concerning how old the kids are or where they live.

The lecture came from Attorney General Eric Holder and Education Secretary Arne Duncan, according to a Department of Justice press release obtained by The Daily Caller.

In their joint statement, Holder and Duncan announced updated federal guidance informing officials at taxpayer-funded K-12 schools about new, federally permissible enrollment practices. The updated guidance stresses the need for flexibility in choosing which documents illegal immigrant parents can submit to show a child’s age or whether the child actually even lives within a school’s attendance boundary.

The new guidance specifically stresses that school districts cannot require certain legal documents including a parent’s state-issued driver’s license any time it might prevent a child from enrolling because of a parent’s illegal immigration status.

“The message here is clear,” Duncan said. “Let all children who live in your district enroll in your public schools.”

“Three decades ago, the Supreme Court issued a historic ruling – in the case of Plyler v. Doe – that legislation denying children an education based on immigration status ‘does not comport with fundamental conceptions of justice,’” said Holder in remarks delivered on Thursday.

Plyler v. Doe, a 1982 case, was a class action, filed on behalf of a group of school-aged Mexican children in Smith County, Texas who could not establish that they had been legally admitted to the United States.

Justice William Brennan wrote the Court’s 5-to-4 majority ruling.

The slim majority concluded that a Texas law preventing the children of illegal immigrants from attending public schools was unconstitutional because denying the children basic education contributes to “the creation and perpetuation of a subclass of illiterates within our boundaries.” Thus, The Lone Star State could not show that the law served a “substantial state interest” — the legal lingo for the constitutional test applied in cases involving illegal aliens.

“Sheer incapability or lax enforcement of the laws barring entry into this country, coupled with the failure to establish an effective bar to the employment of undocumented aliens, has resulted in the creation of a substantial ‘shadow population’ of illegal migrants – numbering in the millions – within our borders,” Brennan, a leader of the Court’s liberal wing, wrote.

On Thursday, Holder went on to say that the federal government has “continued to hear troubling reports of actions taken by school districts around the country that have a chilling effect on student enrollment, raising barriers for undocumented children and children from immigrant families who seek to receive the public education to which they are entitled.”

The attorney general said his department will now double down on ensuring that illegal immigrant children are allowed to attend taxpayer-funded American schools.

“Public school districts have an obligation to enroll students regardless of immigration status and without discrimination on the basis of race, color or national origin,” Holder proclaimed. “The Justice Department will do everything it can to make sure schools meet this obligation. We will vigilantly enforce the law to ensure the schoolhouse door remains open to all.”

Holder also invoked Brown v. Board of Education, the landmark 1954 Supreme Court case declaring that state laws establishing separate public schools for black and white students are unconstitutional, in support of the rights of the children of illegal immigrants to attend public schools despite a lack of documentation concerning age or address


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Old 05-11-2014, 09:02 AM   #61
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The whole underpinning of the Plyler case was the fact they were allowed in (and allowed to STAY in). If the executive branch enforced existing laws they wouldn't be here. Those who do slip by wouldn't be allowed to stay.


But if you're going to let them in and let them stay, then you're essentially welcoming them as de facto citizens. The Supreme Court actually made a decision here I agree with because it prevents a permanent slave class without any rights from being formed. And puts the onus back on prevention.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:05 PM   #62
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I never said he was the first cause of these issues.


Now, it's your turn to address the fact Obama & Holder are the main cause of illegal immigration even causing school issues. I'll wait patiently while you think of a way around that.
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Apparently, hes still thinking, cause he hasn't replied yet.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:08 PM   #63
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How about at the same time you lift the moronic policy that will not let school officials notify INS that they have illegal immigrants living in their district?
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:00 PM   #64
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How about at the same time you lift the moronic policy that will not let school officials notify INS that they have illegal immigrants living in their district?
It'd be a waste of INS's time. INS doesn't care about deporting individual children or families. They spend their resources on finding and deporting criminals that are a legitimate threat to society, coyotes and large immigration and drug traffickers.

Words from an ICE officer my shop has done work for, not mine.

They simply don't view children as a threat and not worth their time and resources. They have bigger fish to fry, so to speak.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:24 PM   #65
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A couple quick notes about this video here, some things i agree with, other things that sound like outright assumptions.

First off, crossing the boarder doesn't automatically imply that they're illegal. They very well could be Legal U.S children who live in Mexico. Same could be said for their parents.

When i worked at the School District, we had a couple of students who were U.S citizens with dual citizenship parents that lived in Mexico and worked in the U.S simply because it was far, far more cost effective.

Simply crossing the boarder doesn't make someone illegal, even though that's what this politician is assuming. In another article posted, this very same politician interviews one of those kids crossing the boarder.....who happened to be a U.S citizen. Considering the link is from Fox news, it isn't surprising that that incredibly large and important detail was left out.

I find it disgusting that something like that can be left out simply for the sake of sensationalism.

It does raise the question, however, of whether a U.S Citizen living in Mexico should be allowed to attend a U.S School. It's an interesting debate considering that the majority of funding for these schools come from Local Property taxes.

The idea that people can in fact simply walk across the boarder like that is quite alarming. But, again, i have to consider the source. The source has already left out an important detail and now i have to wonder what else they've left out. I'd be interested to know more. I fully, fully support tight boarder security and im all for a militarized boarder, but i'm not going to over react to this story knowing that some key ingredients are missing.

This Fox news report wants me to believe that these 1st graders are simply hoping the boarder and trucking though miles of desert back and forth everyday. Sorry, but that just doesn't pass the bullshit test.

I find it interesting that he notes that 900 out of the 1500 illegals weren't even Mexican. That's VERY interesting, considering how much hate and animosity this country has towards Mexicans.

Lastly, something that hasn't been brought up in this thread....While some of you are so quick to blame the Feds for the School/Funding issue....why is no one stating the obvious here?

Schools are funded by the STATE on a Per Head basis. Each child that attends a public school has a $$$ over their head. The higher the occupancy, the more $$$ the school gets. So not only is it in the School's best interest to accept Illegal students, but it's also in their best interest to encourage their attendance. $$$$.

You guys can place the blame on the Feds all you want, but the School District itself has absolutely no reason to turn these kids down and all the incentive in the world to bring them in, from both a social standpoint and a monetary one.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:27 PM   #66
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It'd be a waste of INS's time. INS doesn't care about deporting individual children or families. They spend their resources on finding and deporting criminals that are a legitimate threat to society, coyotes and large immigration and drug traffickers.

Words from an ICE officer my shop has done work for, not mine.

They simply don't view children as a threat and not worth their time and resources. They have bigger fish to fry, so to speak.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:08 PM   #68
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Waves of immigrant minors present crisis for Obama, Congress


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of children unaccompanied by parents or relatives are flooding across the southern U.S. border illegally, forcing the Obama administration and Congress to grapple with both a humanitarian crisis and a budget dilemma.

An estimated 60,000 such children will pour into the United States this year, according to the administration, up from about 6,000 in 2011. Now, Washington is trying to figure out how to pay for their food, housing and transportation once they are taken into custody.

The flow is expected to grow. The number of unaccompanied, undocumented immigrants who are under 18 will likely double in 2015 to nearly 130,000 and cost U.S. taxpayers $2 billion, up from $868 million this year, according to administration estimates.

The shortage of housing for these children, some as young as 3, has already become so acute that an emergency shelter at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, has been opened and can accommodate 1,000 of them, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said in an interview with Reuters.


The issue is an added source of tension between Democrats and Republicans, who disagree on how to rewrite immigration laws. With comprehensive legislation stalled, President Barack Obama is looking at small, administrative steps he could take, which might be announced this summer. No details have been outlined but immigration groups are pressing him to take steps to keep families with children together.

The minors flooding over the border are often teenagers leaving behind poverty or violence in Mexico and other parts of Central America such as Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. They are sometimes seeking to reunite with a parent who is already in the United States, also without documentation.

"This is a humanitarian crisis and it requires a humanitarian response," Senate Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Barbara Mikulski said in an interview. The Maryland Democrat, a former social worker, has likened the flood of unaccompanied children to the "boat people" of past exodus movements.

Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama, the senior Republican on Mikulski's committee, said, "The need is there, you know the humanitarian aspect of it, but we're challenged on money."

Immigration groups lobbying for comprehensive reform argue that children are being hit hardest by the political deadlock.


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With an even bigger funding challenge looming for 2015, Mikulski worries corners might be cut. She said children could end up being placed in federal holding cells meant only for adults and that funds might have to be shifted from other programs, such as refugee aid, to help cover the $252-per-day cost of detaining a child.

Mark Lagon, who coordinated the George W. Bush administration’s efforts to combat human trafficking, tied the sharp increase in unaccompanied minors to both U.S. economic factors and escalating violence in Central America.

He noted that there was a decrease in migration to the United States in the period 2008-2010 that reflected the U.S. economic downturn, and that has been reversed.

"Now, it is again seen that there is a better life to be had in the United States and it’s worth the risk" of parents encouraging their children to make the perilous journey from countries like El Salvador and Honduras, said Langon, now a professor at Georgetown University and a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.


Also, with drug wars raging in Mexico, those fleeing Central American countries are less likely to make Mexico their destination and instead continue onto the United States, he said.

The budget and border-security implications of the problem could spill into campaigns for the November congressional elections, especially in Senate races in states with significant immigrant populations, such as North Carolina and Colorado.

Republican Representative John Carter of Texas blamed Obama for what he called a "nightmare at the border" with "tens of thousands of children" being smuggled into the United States.

In an opinion piece in The Hill newspaper last month, Carter said Obama's policies had created an "invitational posture for illegal immigrants." He said the administration helped to fuel the crossings with a 2012 decision to give temporary relief from deportation to certain children brought to the United States illegally by their parents.

Immigration advocacy groups point out that the unaccompanied youths coming to the United States since 2011 would not qualify under that program.


Lagon criticized the "political canard from my fellow Republicans" who suggest the tide of unaccompanied minors is the result of Obama policies, especially given Obama’s aggressive deportation policy since he became president in 2009.

A report by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, based on interviews of 404 children aged 12-17 who left their home countries, found that 70 percent did so because of either domestic abuse, or violence "in the region by organized armed criminal actors, including drug cartels and gangs or by State actors."

HARROWING JOURNEYS

Minors sometimes endure horrific conditions to get to the United States, immigration groups say.

Suyen G, who asked that her full name not be published, said she left her native Honduras two years ago aged 16 after securing $9,000 to pay a smuggler to get her into the United States. "I didn't know it was illegal because a lot of people come. I thought it was something that normal people just do," she said through a translator.


Suyen has a quick smile and looks like a typical American teenager in her sandals and fashionably-torn blue jeans. But she recounts a harrowing journey, saying she left home to escape a father who was beating her, and that along the way she was raped by a "coyote" or migrant smuggler. She endured 24 hours with no food as she sat atop a slow-moving freight train through Mexico and made an overnight trek by foot.

When she struggled to pull herself over a wall at the Mexico-U.S. border, Suyen said, "I thought I was going to die" after being shoved over by a coyote, plunging down the other side and landing atop a man below.

Unlike most kids, she entered the United States undetected, only to end up in a stranger's house in Houston. There, she said she was forced to work without pay for a month before being transferred to a vineyard, where she cooked meals, also without pay, for 300 migrant workers. Reuters has not verified the details of her journey but Suyen told a similar story in a sworn deposition to an immigration court.

Finally, Suyen said, she was allowed to travel to northern Virginia where she was reunited with her mother.

Rebecca Walters, a lawyer in the northern Virginia office of Ayuda, which provides assistance to immigrants, helped Suyen win protective status and eventually a "green card" that allows her to work legally in the United States.


Walters said she typically juggles up to 60 cases at a time involving unaccompanied minors. A lot of her cases were boys who said they had friends who had been murdered for refusing to join gangs at home, she said.

Walters told of a boy from El Salvador who lived with an abusive, alcoholic father. The boy had to stop going outside to avoid getting beaten by gang members trying to recruit him.

In 2011, the boy and his brother, aged 16 and 15, arrived in the United States after walking for days in the desert. They were caught by U.S. authorities just inside border.

If not for the father's abuse, "it would have been almost impossible" to prevent the brothers' deportation, Walters said.

Minors who escape domestic abuse in their countries have a good chance of winning a special protective status from U.S. immigration courts, even if they are caught at the border. But the law does not recognize gang activity as a reason to protect immigrant children.


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