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Old 05-09-2014, 04:48 PM  
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So I'm kind of fascinated by a cultural discussion that is happening around this whole "#bringbackourgirls" thing.

On one side, you've got Rush Limbaugh, sounding a little callous:
I just think this is pathetic. I'm just stunned. We got 300 Nigerian girls kidnapped by an Al-Qaeda group, and nobody cared or talked about it for a while. Hillary wouldn't call 'em a terror group. Now, all of a sudden, for some reason, we're on a big push to get 'em back and this is how...? Well, you can't read the writing. It's a plea for people on Twitter to get in gear and bring the girls back. It's #BringBackOurGirls. Apparently there's a Twitter... What do you call 'em, handle? It's the number sign
"BringBackOurGirls." (interruption) It's a hashtag, okay.

Anyway, there's Mrs. Obama looking sad and grim, and the sad thing here is that the low-information crowd that's puddling around out there on Twitter is gonna think we're actually doing something about it. (interruption) Exactly. Yeah, they'll say, "At least she is trying, Mr. Limbaugh. What are you doing? At least Mrs. Obama cares! At least they're trying to get them back."

Here it is again, closer. See it? Is that not pathetic? What the hell message does that send? Imagine if bin Laden were still alive. Imagine Ayman al-Zawahiri. Can you imagine? They're laughing at this over in the huts and so forth wherever they are. It is just unbelievable. #BringBackOurGirls. They're Nigerian, unless there's something that we don't know.

But are we really this powerless? The correct way to look at this is the audience that will see it -- the Twitter, low-information universe -- will say, "Oh, Mrs. Obama! At least they care, and at least they're trying to do something."
On the other side, I guess you've got Michelle Obama, who is doing the radio address this week to "demand justice for Boko Haram kidnap victims."

The question that I have about all this is "to what end?" I don't particularly like Rush Limbaugh. He's tone deaf at the very least. But isn't it also tone deaf to hold up a sign for twitter without any real call to action? This reminds me a lot of the #occupywallstreet stuff, where they call a bunch of people to "raise awareness" - but that's the extent of the call to action.

I don't understand what this is supposed to accomplish. As a father, I feel terrible about these girls, but I would be disgusted if the extent of the people with the power to do anything about it basically turned that loss into a branding campaign for how in touch and compassionate they are.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:27 PM   #121
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:54 PM   #122
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I am pretty skeptical of most "awareness campaigns." I mean the NFL has a couple of weeks a year where they spend untold amounts of money on pink gear to "raise awareness" about breast cancer. Like nobody knows it exists, and the money they spent on pink shoes and headbands wouldn't have been better off just being donated to actual victims of breast cancer.

Add twitter or Facebook to the mix and now we are really getting something done.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:26 PM   #123
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I'm just going to come right out and say it. The first lady has a cute pouty face.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:55 PM   #124
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:08 AM   #125
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I'm just going to come right out and say it. The first lady has a cute pouty face.
I thought so at first, but then I kept noticing that one of her eyes is out of alignment, and that's all I see when I look at that now... But still, I think she's a cute lady, and in another universe would be happy to be friends with the Obamas. I think they're mostly good people, even if I think their politics are pretty weak.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:30 AM   #126
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I thought so at first, but then I kept noticing that one of her eyes is out of alignment, and that's all I see when I look at that now... But still, I think she's a cute lady, and in another universe would be happy to be friends with the Obamas. I think they're mostly good people, even if I think their politics are pretty weak.
I get that. If they were my neighbors, and politics never came up, I'd probably get along swimmingly.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:21 AM   #127
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I am pretty skeptical of most "awareness campaigns." I mean the NFL has a couple of weeks a year where they spend untold amounts of money on pink gear to "raise awareness" about breast cancer. Like nobody knows it exists, and the money they spent on pink shoes and headbands wouldn't have been better off just being donated to actual victims of breast cancer.

Add twitter or Facebook to the mix and now we are really getting something done.
It’s a way for people that weren’t going to actually do anything about it anyway to feel like they’ve done something without putting forth any real effort.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:29 AM   #128
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I am pretty skeptical of most "awareness campaigns." I mean the NFL has a couple of weeks a year where they spend untold amounts of money on pink gear to "raise awareness" about breast cancer. Like nobody knows it exists, and the money they spent on pink shoes and headbands wouldn't have been better off just being donated to actual victims of breast cancer.
I imagine they work through the same voodoo magic that makes advertising work when I can't wrap my brain around it. Take the Super Bowl, every year Coke and Pepsi spend millions running commercials. I always boggle at the thought of how many cans they must have to sell just to break even. I mean, we're not talking about Vanilla Super Coke Extreme a new product... just plain old Coke that I'm positive every human watching is already familiar with. More over, I've found Coke/Pepsi drinkers to be very loyal; Most have a favorite and stick to that their entire life.

I don't get it but these companies are run by the kind of people who'd kick their own Mom out of her house for being 5 days late on rent and they spend 100's of millions a year on it so I'm sure the return must be there.
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I imagine they work through the same voodoo magic that makes advertising work when I can't wrap my brain around it. Take the Super Bowl, every year Coke and Pepsi spend millions running commercials. I always boggle at the thought of how many cans they must have to sell just to break even. I mean, we're not talking about Vanilla Super Coke Extreme a new product... just plain old Coke that I'm positive every human watching is already familiar with. More over, I've found Coke/Pepsi drinkers to be very loyal; Most have a favorite and stick to that their entire life.

I don't get it but these companies are run by the kind of people who'd kick their own Mom out of her house for being 5 days late on rent and they spend 100's of millions a year on it so I'm sure the return must be there.
Companies like that spend billions over decades to change the way you identify products. They are the reason that you might think of stopping by a 7/11 for a Coke and checking to see if they have Q-Tips, instead of thinking of stopping by a convenience store to purchase a cold carbonated beverage and checking for cotton swabs.
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Old 05-13-2014, 01:15 PM   #131
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I am pretty skeptical of most "awareness campaigns." I mean the NFL has a couple of weeks a year where they spend untold amounts of money on pink gear to "raise awareness" about breast cancer. Like nobody knows it exists, and the money they spent on pink shoes and headbands wouldn't have been better off just being donated to actual victims of breast cancer.

Add twitter or Facebook to the mix and now we are really getting something done.
Actually, the Nigerian President was doing a pretty good job keeping this whole thing cloaked until the awareness campaigns forced pressure on him. A lot of times, yeah, they're illusions to make people think they're helping, but a lot of times - like this time - they actually seem to be doing some real good.
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