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Old 05-10-2014, 01:28 PM  
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Great day for the Chiefs

Two legitimate offensive difference makers drafted today. Thomas is incredibly fast and quick, who can play slot, TB in certain sets and gives you a ton of gadget play possibilities. He is a freak on special teams. He and Tavon Austin are very similar players when both are healthy. Love that addition.

Aaron Murray is a terrific QB and perfect for Reid's West Coast passing game. He is very accurate in the short passing game, but also has the arm to stretch the field. I know he's not the tallest guy, but he's an exceptional four year QB who comes in with real skills, experience and is smart as hell.

I don't see Daniel being waived, because he gives the team NFL experience and moxie. Bray will be the casualty here.

Aaron Murray will be the QB of the future.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:08 AM   #46
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Two legitimate offensive difference makers drafted today. Thomas is incredibly fast and quick, who can play slot, TB in certain sets and gives you a ton of gadget play possibilities. He is a freak on special teams. He and Tavon Austin are very similar players when both are healthy. Love that addition.

Aaron Murray is a terrific QB and perfect for Reid's West Coast passing game. He is very accurate in the short passing game, but also has the arm to stretch the field. I know he's not the tallest guy, but he's an exceptional four year QB who comes in with real skills, experience and is smart as hell.

I don't see Daniel being waived, because he gives the team NFL experience and moxie. Bray will be the casualty here.

Aaron Murray will be the QB of the future.
I think the Chiefs will keep 4 QBs and ditch Daniel when they feel like one of our young guys is good enough to be a starter. It doesn't seem to be Dorsey's nature to like overpaying for free agents. He seems to be bringing in big contracts to be stopgaps he hopes to replace one day.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:37 AM   #47
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I think the Chiefs will keep 4 QBs and ditch Daniel when they feel like one of our young guys is good enough to be a starter. It doesn't seem to be Dorsey's nature to like overpaying for OUR free agents. He seems to be bringing in big contracts to be stopgaps he hopes to replace one day.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:14 AM   #48
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Please stop comparing Thomas to McCluster. Please.
I was under the impression that he's probably not as good as mccluster... how are they different?
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:24 AM   #49
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:43 AM   #50
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This was a very logical draft..actually the $28 million draft, IMO. Hali, Flowers, Daniels...and McCluster. Hali is around $10 million next year as is Flowers...Chase is $4 million and Dexter got something around $4 million this year. KC was strapped and couldn't maneuver in FA. Flowers is an above average under-sized corner playing in the wrong system and Hali will be 32.

Would I have liked KC to take Lee at 23....sure...but then they would have to draft Hali's replacement next season and not have him around to mentor Ford. Smith and Houston are going to get paid and this is how the Chiefs plan on doing it.

It's a pretty solid strategy as the offense wasn't the issue over the last 8 games...not to mention Kelce is like a 2014 draft pick as is Commings..except they have a year under their belts in the system.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:45 AM   #51
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I was under the impression that he's probably not as good as mccluster... how are they different?
He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:57 AM   #52
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He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.
Not that I don't agree with you (I do) but Jamaal Charles was also a "track guy" when we drafted him.

Sometimes we have to be patient.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:57 AM   #53
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He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.
He scored 46 TD's in 3 years at Oregon...that's pretty much a football guy. KC used a 4th..instead of a second. I didn't hate McCluster...but it was too high for him. I wasn't upset that he wasn't resigned. I think the Chiefs can do better..
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:01 PM   #54
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He scored 46 TD's in 3 years at Oregon...that's pretty much a football guy. KC used a 4th..instead of a second. I didn't hate McCluster...but it was too high for him. I wasn't upset that he wasn't resigned. I think the Chiefs can do better..
McCluster showed some flash, but never really developed a second dimension to his game. Never really made people miss. Never really became a great slot receiver who could move the chains. Never really became a speed threat. Went down too easily. Had great return averages, but never really became that "break the game wide open" with a great return guy either... He's really pretty average.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:04 PM   #55
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McCluster showed some flash, but never really developed a second dimension to his game. Never really made people miss. Never really became a great slot receiver who could move the chains. Never really became a speed threat. Went down too easily. Had great return averages, but never really became that "break the game wide open" with a great return guy either... He's really pretty average.
I only really disagree with the part in bold. At times last year, he was one of the few that could consistently move the chains it seemed like.

Otherwise, I agree with you.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:06 PM   #56
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I only really disagree with the part in bold. At times last year, he was one of the few that could consistently move the chains it seemed like.

Otherwise, I agree with you.
He also did become that return guy that breaks open a game. Near the end of the season it seemed like every time he returned a punt it was for big yards.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:09 PM   #57
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McCluster showed some flash, but never really developed a second dimension to his game. Never really made people miss. Never really became a great slot receiver who could move the chains. Never really became a speed threat. Went down too easily. Had great return averages, but never really became that "break the game wide open" with a great return guy either... He's really pretty average.
The one thing that disappointed me about losing McCluster was, after the egregious drop earlier in the season, he had one of the most impressive unheralded receptions of the season later. I have no idea how to track it down, but it was on the sidelines and and he twisted his entire body nearly 360 degrees and snatched it over his head, hands only. He like launched himself horizontal, went into a corkscrew, caught it at about 270 degrees rotation and landed on his chest with the ball overhead.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:21 PM   #58
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He also did become that return guy that breaks open a game. Near the end of the season it seemed like every time he returned a punt it was for big yards.
True.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:22 PM   #59
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He also did become that return guy that breaks open a game. Near the end of the season it seemed like every time he returned a punt it was for big yards.
He had a few big games, but even in those he wasn't breaking tackles or out running people. He was following some damn good blocking up to the point where someone would touch him and he'd just go down or get pushed out of bounds. I thought our other returners actually showed more flash and athleticism/speed.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:52 PM   #60
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He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.
How about we make a bet Sac? I bet that Thomas easily produces more on offense than McCluster did in his best season in KC.

511 yards and 2 TD's in McClusters best offensive production in 4 years in KC. I'm telling you right now Thomas easily outdoes him year 1.

What say you?
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