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Old 05-10-2014, 10:40 PM  
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Worrisome things: Offensive Line

While we were already one of the youngest offensive lines last year, we got even younger this year:

First our Starters:

Eric Fisher (23)
Jeff Allen (24)
Rod Hudson (24)
Rishaw Johnson (25)
Donald Stephenson (25)

Backups (not all of these guys will make the roster obviously, but these are the main ones including the new picks):

Rokevious Watkins (25)
Jeff Linkenbach (26)
Eric Kush (24)
Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff (23)
Zach FUlton (22)

Holy Shit! I don't think I've ever heard of any team in the league running with an offensive line that is this young and this inexperienced. With the defensive front 7s that we have to face next year (Rams, Seahawks, Niners, Jets, Cardinals, Bills, Steelers, Patriots), how do they expect this offensive line to hold up well against that? I really hope that they are going to sign a veteran or two to help these younger guys develop and also serve as quality depth or even starters at OG or something.

Here is a taste of the pass rushers/DLs we will face next year:

SF:
Aldon Smith - Justin Smith - Ray McDonald - Ahmad Brooks

St. Louis:
Robert Quinn - Michael Brockers - Aaron Donald - Chris Long

Arizona:
Sam Acho - Calais Campbell - Darnell Dockett - Daryl Washington (MLB blitzes) - John Abraham

Buffalo:
Mario Williams - Marcell Dareus - Kyle Williams - Jerry Hughes

Here are two guys that are still out there who can help.

1. Uche Nwaneri, 30 - He's a solid NFL guard who still plays at a sufficiently high level. He shouldn't cost too much at this point and would go a long way towards improving this OL.

2. Daryn Colledge, 32 - At this point of his career, he's good as a back-up with starter ability and the ability to play either guard position. He offers position versatility and a good amount of NFL experience.

I just think that Dorsey and Reid are playing with fire if their goal is to have our OL learn and develop through trial and error without a single solid veteran presence to help guide the younger guys a long the way.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think that we'll be fine against the schedule that we have?

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Old 05-11-2014, 02:16 PM   #91
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The plan all along was to waste two 2nd rounders on Alex Smith, then STILL draft his replacement anyway while not giving him any help in order to get rid of him quicker so that Murray can take over. Makes sense? K.
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:18 PM   #92
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the thing is there's no continuity with this line

next year we could (will) have a new center. They can't afford to keep Hudson no different than they couldnt keep Asamoah or Schwartz

following year Stephenson will be overpaid in FA.

Jeff Allen is also gone in that span

So in the next 2 years we could (will) have a new center, new starting tackle and a new LG. The only guy really under control is Fisher lol.

This is the problem with the Chiefs being so close to the cap, they wont be able to afford any of these guys because there will be more important players on the roster to spend money on. The lines going to look completely different in 2 years again.
Good thing we drafted their replacements the last 2 years.
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:55 PM   #93
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Good thing we drafted their replacements the last 2 years.
so the line in 2015/2016 could have even LESS experience than the line going into 2014. lol
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:09 PM   #94
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CP1: I wish we would build through the draft…

CP2: Yeah, and screw drafting for need, we need to take the BPA.

CP1: No $hit.

CP2: Man, our offensive line makes me nervous, they are so young.

CP1: Yeah, wish we would have signed a FA starting guard. I mean, it's nice and all that we have drafted our entire o-line except for Rishaw Johnson, who was also a rookie last year, but c'mon, how are we going to compete with such a young inexperienced line.

CP2: I hear ya. Can't believe we didn't draft a guard in the first round. I mean we lost Asamoah and Schwartz in the offseason. Dumb not to fill that need in the early rounds this year.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:18 PM   #95
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CP1: I wish we would build through the draft…

CP2: Yeah, and screw drafting for need, we need to take the BPA.

CP1: No $hit.

CP2: Man, our offensive line makes me nervous, they are so young.

CP1: Yeah, wish we would have signed a FA starting guard. I mean, it's nice and all that we have drafted our entire o-line except for Rishaw Johnson, who was also a rookie last year, but c'mon, how are we going to compete with such a young inexperienced line.

CP2: I hear ya. Can't believe we didn't draft a guard in the first round. I mean we lost Asamoah and Schwartz in the offseason. Dumb not to fill that need in the early rounds this year.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:22 PM   #96
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CP1: I wish we would build through the draft…

CP2: Yeah, and screw drafting for need, we need to take the BPA.

CP1: No $hit.

CP2: Man, our offensive line makes me nervous, they are so young.

CP1: Yeah, wish we would have signed a FA starting guard. I mean, it's nice and all that we have drafted our entire o-line except for Rishaw Johnson, who was also a rookie last year, but c'mon, how are we going to compete with such a young inexperienced line.

CP2: I hear ya. Can't believe we didn't draft a guard in the first round. I mean we lost Asamoah and Schwartz in the offseason. Dumb not to fill that need in the early rounds this year.
Show us where anyone is making that kind of argument.

Dipshit.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:25 PM   #97
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Show us where anyone is making that kind of argument.

Dipshit.
Milky are you trolling? Because that was basically the post draft discussion last night.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:31 PM   #98
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I don't think that anyone ever honestly felt like we should have taken an OG with our first pick. It would not have helped with the experience on our OL.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:52 PM   #99
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Milky are you trolling? Because that was basically the post draft discussion last night.
saccopoo is the only person I've seen contend that we should have drafted an O-Lineman with the first pick.

And that isn't the argument that the dipshit was poking at, anyway.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:55 PM   #100
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I don't know that Oline is going to be a problem at all.


I worry about health along the Oline as much as anything.


I still think WR is the weakest position on offense, followed by TE.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:57 PM   #101
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I don't know that Oline is going to be a problem at all.


I worry about health along the Oline as much as anything.


I still think WR is the weakest position on offense, followed by TE.
Keep ****ing doubting Demetrius Harris (he said, said dripping with sarcasm).
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:01 PM   #102
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Keep ****ing doubting Demetrius Harris (he said, said dripping with sarcasm).
as far as i can tell, Dorsey has just said 'it's on Reid to create offense from scheme, so i can clean the books by drafting replacements'
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:23 PM   #103
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I'm waiting for week 5 when all of you tools flip flop and fall in love with our o line.
You mean if it surpasses our expectations then we'll be impressed?

What giant tools we all are!
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:34 PM   #104
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Here's another unforeseen problem.

Fisher is our LT. Stephenson is our RT. Let's also assume Allen is our LG. Now check out the depth we have behind them and whether they have experience playing on the right or left side:

Rishaw Johnson: RG
Jeff Linkenbach: RG and RT
Dr. Frenchie: RT
Zach Fulton: RG
Otis Hudson: RG
Rokevious Watkins: LG

Unless you count losers like Ricky Henry and Colin Kelly, who are unknowns in terms of fit, our backup OGs and OTs are predominantly right side players.

Either we try to turn some of them into swing guards, or we're probably going to get screwed.
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:37 PM   #105
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Left guard, right guard... if any of these guys are worth a fat **** it shouldn't matter.

Kick Hudson over to LG and stick Kush in there at C... fixed.
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